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Posted January 18, 2019 02:03 · last edited January 18, 2019 02:23

I'm sure another mod will hide this shortly since I'm going rogue but honestly I wasn't being all that snarky then but I'm certainly about to be now. 

Your own post explained how you broke those two rules and a number of other users had pointed exactly that out to you. I simply made it clear which rules they were since it was clarity you seemed to want. If you can't understand how attacking the person directly is a problem then this is probably why you find yourself falling foul of the mods more often. This isn't rocket science. Nor should it be a surprise that repeat offenders might be dealt with more harshly then those who aren't.

No the modding isn't perfect and it never will be - it's almost like there is more than one person doing it and they have different opinions at times and aren't without fault. We don't always get it right, and we certainly don't always agree. We talk about it though behind the scenes and try and reach a consensus where we can. I'm also not going to comment on some long past incident that I have zero knowledge of (given I hadn't even heard of it myself and I'm hardly new round here) but it sounds like no one covered themselves in glory there.. 

However, I will say that being one of the "elite", as so many on here like to brand people doing anything at all to help, is a thankless task. Many on here can attack and criticise from afar, from behind anonymous faceless accounts without any fear of recompense. Those of us brave enough to not only spend hundreds of hours supporting the fans and the club but to use our real name while doing so are often subject to attack. The fact you knew that person's name and place of work to hassle them directly should show you how exposed we are. I know many times I get bowled up to in public to be told how I was wrong about something, there is nothing like a drunken fan yelling in your face to make you question why you bother giving up your time to be thanked by such behaviour. That is to speak nothing of the time I was assaulted on an away trip within NZ by other local fans simply for being "one of those guys from the fan group". Nothing like a bloody football jersey and fist full of police reports to make you feel thanked. This is not isolated the abuse we cop is very real and not just some keyboard warrior nonsense but for the greater good it's not always screamed from the mountain tops.

You want to complain about being treated unfairly because you think you should be able to say whatever you like on a private forum, well cry me a river. The whole internet is available to you to say whatever you want without fear of "YF Elite" censorship - feel free to avail yourself of that right. On here though we have rules and will administer them as we see fit - we can change them at any time and use them more or less harshly as we see fit. We have no obligation at all despite your claims, but choose to operate as openly as we can because none of this is done with anything other than the intent of having a football community that we foster and grow together. It's not a free for all however it is a community and we try and include the community in decisions for that reason.

So unless you have people abusing you in the streets or calling your workplace to explain why what you said on the internet was wrong then honestly I have zero time for you complaining about how hard done you are.

I'm willing to bet there are a fair greater number of people no longer part of this forum because of the cesspit it becomes at times than because of inconsistent modding. In fact more often than not I hear from people that have left the forums that they wish the modding was much more harsh to get rid of some of the shark on here.

Thank you for reminding me why it'd be so much easier to just walk away than bother dealing with any of this.

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Unknown editor edited January 18, 2019 02:23

I'm sure another mod will hide this shortly since I'm going rogue but honestly I wasn't being snarky at all then but I'm certainly about to be now. 

Your own post explained how you broke those two rules and a number of other users had pointed exactly that out to you. I simply made it clear which rules they were since it was clarity you seemed to want. If you can't understand how attacking the person directly is a problem then this is probably why you find yourself falling foul of the mods more often. This isn't rocket science. Nor should it be a surprise that repeat offenders might be dealt with more harshly then those who aren't.

No the modding isn't perfect and it never will be - it's almost like there is more than one person doing it and they have different opinions at times and aren't without fault. We don't always get it right, and we certainly don't always agree. We talk about it though behind the scenes and try and reach a consensus where we can. I'm also not going to comment on some long past incident that I have zero knowledge of (given I hadn't even heard of it myself and I'm hardly new round here) but it sounds like no one covered themselves in glory there.. 

However, I will say that being one of the "elite", as so many on here like to brand people doing anything at all to help, is a thankless task. Many on here can attack and criticise from afar, from behind anonymous faceless accounts without any fear of recompense. Those of us brave enough to not only spend hundreds of hours supporting the fans and the club but to use our real name while doing so are often subject to attack. The fact you knew that person's name and place of work to hassle them directly should show you how exposed we are. I know many times I get bowled up to in public to be told how I was wrong about something, there is nothing like a drunken fan yelling in your face to make you question why you bother giving up your time to be thanked by such behaviour. That is to speak nothing of the time I was assaulted on an away trip within NZ by other local fans simply for being "one of those guys from the fan group". Nothing like a bloody football jersey and fist full of police reports to make you feel thanked. This is not isolated the abuse we cop is very real and not just some keyboard warrior nonsense but for the greater good it's not always screamed from the mountain tops.

You want to complain about being treated unfairly because you think you should be able to say whatever you like on a private forum, well cry me a river. The whole internet is available to you to say whatever you want without fear of "YF Elite" censorship - feel free to avail yourself of that right. On here though we have rules and will administer them as we see fit - we can change them at any time and use them more or less harshly as we see fit. We have no obligation at all despite your claims, but choose to operate as openly as we can because none of this is done with anything other than the intent of having a football community that we foster and grow together. It's not a free for all however it is a community and we try and include the community in decisions for that reason.

So unless you have people abusing you in the streets or calling your workplace to explain why what you said on the internet was wrong then honestly I have zero time for you complaining about how hard done you are.

I'm willing to bet there are a fair greater number of people no longer part of this forum because of the cesspit it becomes at times than because of inconsistent modding. In fact more often than not I hear from people that have left the forums that they wish the modding was much more harsh to get rid of some of the shark on here.

Thank you for reminding me why it'd be so much easier to just walk away than bother dealing with any of this.

Unknown editor edited January 18, 2019 02:13

I'm sure another mod will hide this shortly since I'm going rogue but honestly I wasn't being snarky at all then but I'm certainly about to be now. 

Your own post explained how you broke those two rules and a number of other users had pointed exactly that out to you. I simply made it clear which rules they were since it was clarity you seemed to want. If you can't understand how attacking the person directly is a problem then this is probably why you find yourself falling foul of the mods more often. This isn't rocket science. Nor should it be a surprise that repeat offenders might be dealt with more harshly then those who aren't.

No the modding isn't perfect and it never will be - it's almost like there is more than one person doing it and they have different opinions at times and aren't without fault. We don't always get it right, and we certainly don't always agree. We talk about it though behind the scenes and try and reach a consensus where we can. I'm also not going to comment on some long past incident that I have zero knowledge of (given I hadn't even heard of it myself and I'm hardly new round here) but it sounds like no one covered themselves in glory there.. 

However, I will say that being one of the "elite", as so many on here like to brand people doing anything at all to help, is a thankless task. Many on here can attack and criticise from afar, from behind anonymous faceless accounts without any fear of recompense. Those of us brave enough to not only spend hundreds of hours supporting the fans and the club but to use our real name while doing so are often subject to attack. The fact you knew that person's name and place of work to hassle them directly should show you how exposed we are. I know many times I get bowled up to in public to be told how I was wrong about something, there is nothing like a drunken fan yelling in your face to make you question why you bother giving up your time to be thanked by such behaviour. That is to speak nothing of the time I was assaulted on an away trip within NZ by other local fans simply for being "one of those guys from the fan group". Nothing like a bloody football jersey and fist full of police reports to make you feel thanked. The abuse we cop is very real and not just some keyboard warrior nonsense.

You want to complain about being treated unfairly because you think you should be able to say whatever you like on a private forum, well cry me a river. The whole internet is available to you to say whatever you want without fear of "YF Elite" censorship - feel free to avail yourself of that right. On here though we have rules and will administer them as we see fit - we can change them at any time and use them more or less harshly as we see fit. We have no obligation at all despite your claims, but choose to operate as openly as we can because none of this is done with anything other than the intent of having a football community that we foster and grow together. It's not a free for all however it is a community and we try and include the community in decisions for that reason.

So unless you have people abusing you in the streets or calling your workplace to explain why what you said on the internet was wrong then honestly I have zero time for you complaining about how hard done you are.

I'm willing to bet there are a fair greater number of people no longer part of this forum because of the cesspit it becomes at times than because of inconsistent modding. In fact more often than not I hear from people that have left the forums that they wish the modding was much more harsh to get rid of some of the shark on here.

Thank you for reminding me why it'd be so much easier to just walk away than bother dealing with any of this.