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Posted January 17, 2019 21:34 · last edited January 17, 2019 21:34

Is this the mod thread referred to in the Steven Taylor thread? 

If yes, my paste:

So it seems that many disagree with Napierphoenix' views, jokes, and his opposition to his own banning, which if fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

However, saying things like "I've never been banned" or "we couldnt care less why you were banned", are absurd justifications for an opposing point of view, particularly when consistency is his chief complaint.

I disagree wholeheartedly with Napierphoenix' heavy criticism of the moderators, but I agree with him that the behaviour of the moderators can be inconsistent. I will not criticise them for that though, because that is clearly not their intention. They are doing the best job they can, for free, and I'm sure they are trying to be as consistent and clear as possible. Unfortunately you just can't really achieve high levels of that in a volunteer environment when you are constantly pushed for time and money, I get that. That was why I suggested perhaps looking at adding detail to the forum rules so it's a little clearer. However even then, that's just off the top of my head, I haven't thought a lot about that, it may not work at all, it's just an idea.

I would also like to applaud Yakcall for his behaviour when moderating in this thread. Regardless of whether you agree with him or not (and I haven't agreed with some of it), it is clear that he is reading everything, listening to every opinion, and trying his best to make correct decisions based on that. He is not taking a default position and then shaping his behaviour/comments based on that, which is so common these days, it seems to me that he is addressing all comments on their merits, regardless of the person's identity etc. So I think he's great, even if we don't have the same opinions on a lot of stuff. Incidentally it seems we are losing that in the modern world to some degree - having basic civility with people who have opposing views to your own.

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Is this the mod thread referred to in the Steven Taylor thread? 

If yes, my paste:

So it seems that many disagree with Napierphoenix' views, jokes, and his opposition to his own banning, which if fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

However, saying things like "I've never been banned" or "we couldnt care less why you were banned", are absurd justifications for an opposing point of view, particularly when consistency is his chief complaint.

I disagree wholeheartedly with Napierphoenix' heavy criticism of the moderators, but I agree with him that the behaviour of the moderators can be inconsistent. I will not criticise them for that though, because that is clearly not their intention. They are doing the best job they can, for free, and I'm sure they are trying to be as consistent and clear as possible. Unfortunately you just can't really achieve high levels of that in a volunteer environment when you are constantly pushed for time and money, I get that. That was why I suggested perhaps looking at adding detail to the forum rules so it's a little clearer. However even then, that's just off the top of my head, I haven't thought a lot about that, it may not work at all, it's just an idea.

I would also like to applaud Yakcall for his behaviour when moderating in this thread. Regardless of whether you agree with him or not (and I haven't agreed with some of it), it is clear that he is reading everything, listening to every opinion, and trying his best to make correct decisions based on that. He is not taking a default position and then shaping his behaviour/comments based on that, which is so common these days, it seems to me that he is addressing all comments on their merits, regardless of the person's identity etc. So I think he's great, even if we don't have the same opinions on a lot of stuff. Incidentally it seems we are losing that in the modern world to some degree - having basic civility with people who have opposing views to your own.

Anyhow, my apologies for continuing the off-topic discussion, I felt strongly that I wanted to say this... I will paste in the moderators thread in case you must hide/delete this.