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Germany v Serbia

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sanday wrote:
Nine yellows and one red. For a clean game that is pathetic.


I lost count after 5
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LiamO wrote:
AJ13 wrote:

LiamO wrote:
I'm probably a little more pissed because I have a bet on Germany to win, but I'm really starting to get disappointed with this World Cup. I guess for some people it's exciting but for me it's just annoying and frustrating. If we get to the final with a bunch of lucky-but-average teams, it's going to be predictable and boring. :(
If you want to be guaranteed to see the top teams go all they way, go watch egg ball.


You're missing my point. If teams like Ghana and what have you get through and the only handful of top teams get through, the matches will be boring whitewashes.

Yawn, Brazil wins again.

The worst possible outcome for the tournament. It's like 2002 all over again.


really? I thought the 2002 WC was great, much better than 06. Fast paced, attacking, creative football all around. Don't assume an outsider team isn't going to lift the cup just because they haven't in the past. Just look at Greece in EURO 04. Anything can happen.

Anyway you make an interesting point about the overall quality of a World Cup - are you suggesting that the outcome of the different matches is linked in some way? If so, what is the link? The Jabulani? The Vuvuzelas?




 
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:

The rest (including us surprisingly) have all shown the ability to at least compete with higher ranked opposition.People can bitch and moan about the lack of goals, the vuvuzelas, the altitude or the ball but these shocks are making the tournament brilliant.


Shocks don't entertain me. Sure, they shock me, but they don't entertain me. Tight, quality football does and that's been missing at this tournament. Most matches you can always say: "That team lost because they played like arse."

The only two matches I've actually enjoyed legitimately so far have been Japan - Cameroon and New Zealand - Slovakia and that's because I had an intense interest in certain teams gaining a favourable result. For other teams where I don't really care who wins, it's been boring.

I mean Ivory Coast versus Portugal?
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well the solution is simple then, don't watch.

Three for me, and two for them.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Well the solution is simple then, don't watch.


You don't need to be so aggressive about it. It solves nothing.

Look, it's my *gasp* opinion.

I guess I could turn around and say if you don't want to see it, don't read it.

If things change, I'm more than happy to eat my words. I'm not afraid to admit I was wrong (and I often am). But you don't need to start being a jackass because you don't share my opinion.

Jeez.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sanday wrote:
Nine yellows and one red. For a clean game that is pathetic.


I lost count after 5


I'm sending the FIFA referees office a bill for my bets.  Where did they fiind that incompetent retard ?

Heaving again at the Kings, couldn't move upstairs for this one,

How's my driving? - Whine here

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I still kind of think the better teams will prevail, and we'll end up with the quality teams only left in the last 8 -
 
germany will quite likely still finish top if they beat Ghana - if three teams finish on 6, chances are they will have the better goal difference, they are on +3 now even with a loss.
 
I can maybe see Switzerland only managing draws, and spain still finishing top on 6 points
 
England i think will finish on equal points with USA but superior goal difference
 
Italy unfortunately are going to lose on sunday
 
Argentina, Brazil and the Nehterlands are on course
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Either way, I'm going to to stop betting now. I'm not that adventurous!
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I would agree that it has been a pretty boring tournament so far - even Wayne Rooney said so quite bluntly at his press conference the other day.

But I don't think it's 'cause and effect' of this particular tournament, it's just a series of coincidences so far. It will get better, I'm sure. 
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yes. Sure betting adds intensity to the game but not even the most knowledgeable football head can use this world cup to make money. Would love to see the profit the TAB gets from the world cup..
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
As a German (true), I'm naturally pretty disappointed, but I thought there were still plenty of positives on display and for a young team, the experience could well galvanize them. Just one of those days. Should be able to get the better of Ghana.

Very disappointed in Marin, he was brilliant when he came on in a recent friendly against Bosnia.

As for the ref, he must have been watching a replay of Spain-Switzerland before hand. Something made him tetchy.

I know, I know, its serious!

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
monkeyfish wrote:
I would agree that it has been a pretty boring tournament so far - even Wayne Rooney said so quite bluntly at his press conference the other day.

But I don't think it's 'cause and effect' of this particular tournament, it's just a series of coincidences so far. It will get better, I'm sure. 


As a novice I actually like the fact the games are hard fought and low scoring. I find it more exciting no one is a clear cut winner and walkovers are the things that wd make me decide all this lost sleep needs catching up and start skipping games
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I guess the beauty of football is that the "best" team doesn't always win.

Sometimes achieved through tactics and craft, sometimes through stealth and trickery, sometimes through luck. And that's just fine.
Turfmoore2010-06-19 02:20:36

I know, I know, its serious!

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah, I guess it comes across as I'm bitter about the results, but that's just the betting man in me. If anything, I'm just more upset that when there is an, ahem, upset, it's because one team played like muppets. When there isn't an upset, it's a France - Uruguay or C�te d'Ivoire v Portugal.

Ah well, I suppose on the positives, the "vibe" of this tournament means that New Zealand could break through!
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Good game to watch, with lots of chances and drama. More of it please.

Was a bit surprised that �zil  was subbed, thought he played really well. MoM goes to Krasic, brilliant game for him.

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The first round of games was very boring. It seems to be getting a lot better in this 2nd round of games,and more intense!

I think first rounds are quite often a bit tame. Teams are more likely to settle for a draw (England vs USA),and i think this tournament in particular,most of the good matchups were in the first round,so sides wernt exactly gunning out for a win. But its all on from now on.
 
Also in the first round,again particularly in this tournament,sides are a little nervey and need to acclimatise etc. This definetly would have contributed to a few sides slow starts,with the vuvuzelas and altitude.
 
But getting excited again now,have just had 2 nights of quality games in a row.

Allegedly

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Managed to watch Germany against Bosnia a few weeks back where Germany were pure class. Joachim Low looks depressed at the best of times. I am sure Germany will bounce back.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
pretty enjoyable game i thought, good end to end play in between all the silly cards and arm waving from the ref.

had a bet on klose to score and germany halftime/fulltime. both were turned upside down in the space of 2 mins.

taking off muller and ozil were poor subs for mine, i thought they looked to be the most likely source of a goal
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
well deserved result for Serbia
hopefully they and Ghana can squeal through

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
LiamO wrote:
Yeah, I guess it comes across as I'm bitter about the results, but that's just the betting man in me. If anything, I'm just more upset that when there is an, ahem, upset, it's because one team played like muppets. When there isn't an upset, it's a France - Uruguay or C�te d'Ivoire v Portugal.

Ah well, I suppose on the positives, the "vibe" of this tournament means that New Zealand could break through!


Too much whining, imo, considering the first round of games at a WC are almost always all a little dour with the odd upset thrown in. The 2nd round games have been much better.

a.haak

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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
stealthkiwi wrote:
monkeyfish wrote:
I would agree that it has been a pretty boring tournament so far - even Wayne Rooney said so quite bluntly at his press conference the other day.

But I don't think it's 'cause and effect' of this particular tournament, it's just a series of coincidences so far. It will get better, I'm sure. 


As a novice I actually like the fact the games are hard fought and low scoring. I find it more exciting no one is a clear cut winner and walkovers are the things that wd make me decide all this lost sleep needs catching up and start skipping games


Yeah same - football fans are weird in that they often don't seem to like football - or 90% of games at least. I like fast games, tense games, dramatic games, all sorts.
I like tautologies because I like them.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
enjoyed every game i've watched so far,

some more than others but even the 0-0 s - and despite my frustration at england's 'performance' i still enjoyed the chance to watch a game with some good monents and a gutsy effort from the algerians

- it's football every day

i can't imagine a better world
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
back on topic - whilst i can't bring myself to feel sorry for the germans, you do have to wonder what is going on with some of these refs and the card-happy bollocks
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Cosimo wrote:

stealthkiwi wrote:

monkeyfish wrote:
I would agree that it has been a pretty boring tournament so
far - even Wayne Rooney said so quite bluntly at his press conference
the other day.


But I don't think it's 'cause and effect' of this particular
tournament, it's just a series of coincidences so far. It will get
better, I'm sure.�
As a novice I actually like the fact the games are hard fought and low scoring. I find it more exciting no one is a clear cut winner and walkovers are the things that wd make me decide all this lost sleep needs catching up and start skipping games
Yeah same - football fans are weird in that they often don't seem to like football - or 90% of games at least. I like fast games, tense games, dramatic games, all sorts.


Well Cosimo, you are just loose so that is expected from ya.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Perhaps one of the more idiotic refereeing performances that I've ever seen. In the whole game, I've seen 4 yellow-card offences, and only two were actually carded.

First half seemed like foul=yellow card. Second was just the randomest sh*t ever. Hope he never gets close to a FIFA tournament ever again.
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almost 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
Perhaps one of the more idiotic refereeing performances that I've ever seen. In the whole game, I've seen 4 yellow-card offences, and only two were actually carded.

First half seemed like foul=yellow card. Second was just the randomest sh*t ever. Hope he never gets close to a FIFA tournament ever again.


Yep. MoM goes towards the ref (Manuel of the Match - "I know Nothing Mr Fawlty").

However the Germans with 10 men (not bombers in the air) still controlled large amounts of the game and had quite a few shots on goal. Podolski was unlucky/wasteful.

Still - am pretty annoyed with this match because the ref was so influential on it in the worst possible way.

(don't get me started on USA-Slovenia and Algeria-3 Numpties on the shirt)

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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