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Liam Jordan (IF Brommapojkarna | Sweden)

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over 9 years ago
He has a nz passport etc etc just chose SA. Can still decide before rep senior SA side in a comp or qualifying


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over 9 years ago

TV wrote:
He has a nz passport etc etc just chose SA. Can still decide before rep senior SA side in a comp or qualifying

No he can't. He wasn't eligible for NZ when he represented SA at youth competitive level. (he wasn't born here, doesn't have any NZ heritage & didn't live here for 5 years after age of 18)




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over 9 years ago

But we can ask for an exemption : )

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over 9 years ago

Wibblebutt wrote:

TV wrote:
He has a nz passport etc etc just chose SA. Can still decide before rep senior SA side in a comp or qualifying

No he can't. He wasn't eligible for NZ when he represented SA at youth competitive level. (he wasn't born here, doesn't have any NZ heritage & didn't live here for 5 years after age of 18)

Of course your right there but I think as others have said, we can submit for an exemption.  Looking at you now NZF.

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over 9 years ago
There's no way FIFA would grant an exemption in retrospect of the date he first played a competitive match for SA.



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over 9 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

But we can ask for an exemption : )

Even if we could - does he actually want to play for NZ? 

I'd heard that he wanted to emulate his father by making it into the South African team

https://thejourneyfan.blogspot.co.nz/

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over 9 years ago

I'd heard that he wanted to emulate his father by making it into the South African team

Bang on. He wants to represent SA.

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over 9 years ago
Yes we knew all that


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over 9 years ago

TV wrote:
Yes we knew all that
So why is there a thread for him?
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over 9 years ago

Because he's still a kiwi even if he plays for the wrong team.

My only hope is he gets tired of SA football and decides that his future lays elsewhere.

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over 9 years ago
In what way is he a Kiwi in FIFA's eyes? Just because he may or may not have a NZ passport doesn't make him eligible. He played for SA in an official competition when he wasn't eligible to represent NZ do he can't ever play for NZ.



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over 9 years ago

Jaume wrote:

TV wrote:
Yes we knew all that
So why is there a thread for him?

Thread was started from before he played for the SA youth teams. Maybe it should be moved to the General Football section but I bumped it because I thought a few people here would be interested in seeing his latest move. Plus he is a former student of the academy WelNix took over.
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over 9 years ago

RR wrote:

Jaume wrote:

TV wrote:
Yes we knew all that
So why is there a thread for him?

Thread was started from before he played for the SA youth teams. Maybe it should be moved to the General Football section but I bumped it because I thought a few people here would be interested in seeing his latest move. Plus he is a former student of the academy WelNix took over.

cof*cof*david browne cof*cof*

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over 9 years ago

TV wrote:
Yes we knew all that

If you looked down from your high horse you would realise the post I was replying to asked if he wanted to represent NZ. So no, not everyone "knew all that".

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over 9 years ago

Apparently he has transferred to Sporting CP B in the Portuguese second division.

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over 9 years ago

Yes according to Soccerway is now at Sporting CP II, under his South African flag.   This is team Boyd's side Vitoria II beat on the weekend

http://au.soccerway.com/teams/portugal/sporting-b/...

Few South Africans playing in Portugal. Boyd has at least 3 at his club

Maybe it's the Nando's Chicken connection

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over 9 years ago · edited over 9 years ago · History

is he still eligible for NZ?  If so I'd like to see Hudson try and motivate him to play in Russia next year.  Has to be an improvement over half of his questionable squad selections.

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over 9 years ago

Marto wrote:

is he still eligible for NZ?  If so I'd like to see Hudson try and motivate him to play in Russia next year.  Has to be an improvement over half of his questionable squad selections.

For the senior team already? Steady on there - maybe try him in the U20s first (assuming he is eligible)

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over 9 years ago

He'd be a better pick than Lewis

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over 9 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

He'd be a better pick than Lewis

Base on what? did you see him play?

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over 9 years ago

He's never going to play for NZ fellas so pointless arguing...I spoke to Keryn before he left NZ and asked him who Liam would play for if he had to make a choice and he said Bafana Bafana. And I've watched him play at Wits and the kid is by far better than Lewis, Dyer and quite a few others.

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over 9 years ago

He's not eligible. He wasn't eligible when he played for SA youth in WCQ so he can't ever play for NZ.




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over 9 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Jerzy Merino wrote:
MetalLegNZ wrote:

He still hasn't signed up for them yet so get him in there.

Also we offer access to junior World Cups, something SA don't make. So we have a couple huge carrots to offer him.

Also no smart man wants to stay in SA for too long.

His father wanted him to succeed in SA.

Right there.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 9 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Because he's still a kiwi even if he plays for the wrong team.

A quite remarkable comment if ever i have seen one.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 9 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Because he's still a kiwi even if he plays for the wrong team.

My only hope is he gets tired of SA football and decides that his future lays elsewhere.

Since when has he been a Kiwi. Born in SA to Southern African parents, lived in NZ for a very short time. 

Please inform as I am interested.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 9 years ago · edited over 9 years ago · History

Leggy wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Because he's still a kiwi even if he plays for the wrong team.

My only hope is he gets tired of SA football and decides that his future lays elsewhere.

Since when has he been a Kiwi. Born in SA to Southern African parents, lived in NZ for a very short time. 

Please inform as I am interested.

Not so short a time considering his age. Came with his mother & father about 10 years ago or earlier - 2003? - (Keryn hoping to play A-League I believe, but Rickie didn't want him). So he's lived here about half his life. Playing for Mt Albert Grammar (under Fallon I think) was his last NZ footballing gig.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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about 9 years ago

I think he lived in NZ longer then certain other people who have worn the Fern at various levels (AWs).

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about 3 years ago
Knew he had his own thread on here somewhere!





Big loss for Helsingør, given the stage of their current season. Fantastic move for Liam though and best of luck to him. 

Is it to late for us to try and coax him back to play for us? 🤔
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about 3 years ago · edited about 3 years ago · History
MetalLegNZ
Not too late.

No I think he’s cap tied to South Africa. Played some competitive games for Bafana Bafana a few years ago. Sort of a B grade comp of teams around the lower African region from memory. Malawi, Mozambique, Swaziland and the like. COSAFA Cup

Pretty sure that’s right https://us.soccerway.com/matches/2019/06/07/africa/cosafa-cup/south-africa/malawi/3015394/

Bugger for him if cap tied as he seems nowhere the Sth Africa team now at age 24

Anyway his new deal gives some hope to McCowatt he can score a top flight Scandi deal somewhere. Though Jordan has been far more a standout this season for Helsingor than his old mate from the North Shore
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about 3 years ago
Yeah we've been through this a bunch of times. Sadly he can't play for the AWs. Would be good to have him in the mix.

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about 3 years ago
I thought he had only done age group stuff.

Was the captain of their youth team, but then never got a look in again?
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MetalLegNZ
Not too late.

No I think he’s cap tied to South Africa. Played some competitive games for Bafana Bafana a few years ago. Sort of a B grade comp of teams around the lower African region from memory. Malawi, Mozambique, Swaziland and the like. COSAFA Cup

Pretty sure that’s right https://us.soccerway.com/matches/2019/06/07/africa/cosafa-cup/south-africa/malawi/3015394/

Bugger for him if cap tied as he seems nowhere the Sth Africa team now at age 24

Anyway his new deal gives some hope to McCowatt he can score a top flight Scandi deal somewhere. Though Jordan has been far more a standout this season for Helsingor than his old mate from the North Shore
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about 3 years ago
Don't think he even acquired citizenship here. The family never became citizens and returned to SA when Keryn was ill. Not sure that is a factor?
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about 3 years ago
Was. here for longer than 5 years - no issues there.
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about 3 years ago
Enough said
Don't think he even acquired citizenship here. The family never became citizens and returned to SA when Keryn was ill. Not sure that is a factor?

If you scroll to the top of the page, it sounds like he got NZ Citizenship but that was after playing Age Group games for SA, which ruled him out back then.
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about 3 years ago
I'm confused. I didn't think playing age group mattered?

Otherwise why is the Perth lad allowed to swap after playing u17.
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about 3 years ago · edited about 3 years ago · History
MetalLegNZ
I'm confused. I didn't think playing age group mattered?

Otherwise why is the Perth lad allowed to swap after playing u17.

Keegan Jelacic was eligible for both NZ and Aussie before he played for the NZ u17s. Liam Jordan wasn't eligible for NZ when he played for SA at Age Group level according to a previous poster, which in the past would rule him out (see Vinnie Lia). I'm not sure if that rules him out under the new rules tho.
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