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TV wrote:
Ifill for one

Where is the several.

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Ah right i see what you are trying to do there, pretty clever. You're using an example of what was probably a flippant comment made by just one (ONE) footballer who has played in both leagues, and because this particular footballer is a Nix favourite you are hoping it will help sway people on here to support what is a genuinely poor argument and point of view in general. Shameful.

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Wasn't Paul's comment something like there are a few players in every team that would be top championship players but there's also lots of fill. And the difference in quality within a team is huge.

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http://football-highlight.com/en/england/league-ch...

Leeds on a good run - unbeaten is their last 4 games. Which almost coincides with Wood's return as a starting regular from early March.

He is Leeds top scorer for the season with 12, and who knows if he hadn't missed 7 games with injury they may have been in the promotion playoffs.

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Shameful? Ha ridiculous. Happy to list a few who have said it over the years leggy but id rather not get into anymore of an argument with an old hack whose misery flogs this forum
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TV wrote:
Shameful? Ha ridiculous. Happy to list a few who have said it over the years leggy but id rather not get into anymore of an argument with an old hack whose misery flogs this forum

An argument you have lost right there

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Buffon II wrote:

TV wrote:
Lol leggy. Several players who played both say its on par.

Most football forum members are monumentally stupid though, so it is safe to say the several players who said that probably struggle to dress themselves in the morning.

The A-League will never be close to the level of the Championship, and that includes all facets of both leagues.

fixed

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Not lost just smart to not get lost in 3 pages of bollocks on here.
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There is light years between the A league and the championship, which in terms of pay packets rates right up there in Europe.

If players in the A league were of championship level, then they would be there and not playing here.

Sometimes the market economy works 

and 1 other
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I can see both sides of the argument here.

It's easy to say that because there is more money in the Championship that the players and quality must be better. However this is a classic case where the market (ie population who pay to go to games, watch fixtures on TV, buy apparel) is just so much bigger that it is perhaps the market size driving the price of the product (ie wages etc) than the product necessarily being better than another product (ie the A League) in what is a vastly smaller market.

Don't let the price of something in another market get in the way of the perception of quality.

For what it is worth I think they are very different leagues. The championship is a war of attrition. No fluff. No nonsense. There are real  incentives to win (ie promotion) and not to lose. The same cannot be said of the A League given there is no promotion or relegation. Hence the football is arguably more attractive to the neutral as there is less riding on it. I think the Managers look for very different players in their squads which is why even if the leagues are arguably similar the same player may flourish in one (ie be a solid performer in the Championship) yet look average in the A League (and vice versa).

Comparing the two is just subjective. 

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Buffon II wrote:

TV wrote:
Another dumb comment. Theres no salary cap in the championship. If a league didnt you would see better players at the top clubs

Not better players than the Champo though. Stop trying to see something in the A-League that isn't there.

The HAL has had decent players, Austrian international Marc Janko who is doing very well at Basel this season would be a player that would be a very good Championship player. Broich, almost a hundred games in the Bundesliga and a German youth international. Overall quality of teams is lower in the HAL but there are players who have done the business and/or not interested in slogging it out in the 2nd tier of English football and choose the HAL instead. People are not like some computer programme following a logic that means they always have to play at the highest level available to them (if that were the case the EPL wouldn't get as many good players :P )

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Bullion wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

TV wrote:
Another dumb comment. Theres no salary cap in the championship. If a league didnt you would see better players at the top clubs

Not better players than the Champo though. Stop trying to see something in the A-League that isn't there.

The HAL has had decent players, Austrian international Marc Janko who is doing very well at Basel this season would be a player that would be a very good Championship player. Broich, almost a hundred games in the Bundesliga and a German youth international. Overall quality of teams is lower in the HAL but there are players who have done the business and/or not interested in slogging it out in the 2nd tier of English football and choose the HAL instead. People are not like some computer programme following a logic that means they always have to play at the highest level available to them (if that were the case the EPL wouldn't get as many good players :P )

Also, Dwight Yorke - after playing in the HAL went back to playing in the EPL.

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Also the Bournemouth argument- how many of those players would have been bought by EPL clubs, if they didn't come up with the club?

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martinb wrote:

Also the Bournemouth argument- how many of those players would have been bought by EPL clubs, if they didn't come up with the club?

Agree. If Leicester C hadn't had such an amazing season it would be Bournemouth getting all this year's EPL 'underdog' kudos.

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Jerzy Merino wrote:

martinb wrote:

Also the Bournemouth argument- how many of those players would have been bought by EPL clubs, if they didn't come up with the club?

Agree. If Leicester C hadn't had such an amazing season it would be Bournemouth getting all this year's EPL 'underdog' kudos.

No it wouldn't, Spurs and West Ham have massively overachieved as well.

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Yeah, any other year and Spurs would be getting all the plaudits.

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Leeds site have a piece about Wood being nominated for the Championship fans "player of the month" for April

It seems you can still vote- even from here- on the sky sports page- get into it! (It asks for phone contact, but I just left that blank, and seems the vote was still recorded.)

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Leed's final game of the season is a 1-1 draw v Preston, Wood scoring from penalty spot.

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Did he get 15 goals all told for the season?

Considering how often he was injured thats not a terrible return in a team that struggled.

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13 goals incl 3 pens from 33 starts.

Puts him 15th on list of The Championship goal scorers for regular season

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Decent return, though from reading the Leeds fans comments over the season hes still a bit inconsistent in front of goal. (and they still think he's a target man)

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Recent FourFourTwo issue has him ranked in the top 50 players outside the Prem

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He is pretty solid at his current level he is averaging about a goal/assist every other game considering he has gone back and forth between so many different clubs and travels half way around the world for the All whites it is a pretty good achievement he is still young 24 from memory. I think he could cut it in the EPL but he would need a lot of faith and an extended starting run playing with another striker would also help greatly.

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13 goals, 4 assists.

80 shots total, 31 on target.

222 mins per goal

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Manager's been sacked.

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2ndBest wrote:

Manager's been sacked.

Of course this is Leeds under Cellino your taking about.  He's trying to turn us in to the first British club when the owner is the manager.

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Would be good if the manager would play a style better suited to Woods play him as a second striker or alongside another decent striker would help a lot.

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Q. What is the best thing about being a Leeds United fan ?

A. Only three Managers till Christmas.

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Away In A Manger

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Marto wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Manager's been sacked.

Of course this is Leeds under Cellino your taking about.  He's trying to turn us in to the first British club when the owner is the manager.

Chester City have that honour I believe

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PROAK wrote:

Marto wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Manager's been sacked.

Of course this is Leeds under Cellino your taking about.  He's trying to turn us in to the first British club when the owner is the manager.

Chester City have that honour I believe

Was that when they were a football league side or the entity they are today?

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Leggy wrote:

TV wrote:
Ifill for one

Where is the several.

Richard Johnson, "spider" our former goalkeeper, Nick Ward.....

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Chris Wood miss the final since go to sister's wedding
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Wood plays 60 mins as Leeds lose 1-2 at home to Brumby City. That was Leeds 2nd game of the season they lost 0-3 away to QPR in week One (Wood played full 90).

In between was a 2-2 draw verus Fleetwood Town in round One of the League Cup - with Leeds winning on penalties. Wood got his first goal of the season converting a penalty in extra time. He also was successful with his pen in the shootout.

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coochiee wrote:

Wood plays 60 mins as Leeds lose 1-2 at home to Brumby City. That was Leeds 2nd game of the season they lost 0-3 away to QPR in week One (Wood played full 90).

In between was a 2-2 draw verus Fleetwood Town in round One of the League Cup - with Leeds winning on penalties. Wood got his first goal of the season converting a penalty in extra time. He also was successful with his pen in the shootout.

booed off the field - nick whelen already saying he has to go - some crazy expectations of him in Leeds - as if he has to score every single game or he is shark

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robmm1976 wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Wood plays 60 mins as Leeds lose 1-2 at home to Brumby City. That was Leeds 2nd game of the season they lost 0-3 away to QPR in week One (Wood played full 90).

In between was a 2-2 draw verus Fleetwood Town in round One of the League Cup - with Leeds winning on penalties. Wood got his first goal of the season converting a penalty in extra time. He also was successful with his pen in the shootout.

booed off the field - nick whelen already saying he has to go - some crazy expectations of him in Leeds - as if he has to score every single game or he is shark

What? He was their top scorer last season and they're complaining about him when in 3 games he's already scored 1? They've conceded 5 in 2 Championship games but they're blaming the striker? Wow, no wonder everyone hates Leeds.
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I guess the other way to look at it is, with him leading their front line, they only managed to score barely more than goal a game last season, and finished mid-table in the Championship. I haven't really followed this very closely, and don't know what their actual problems are, but Leeds are a big club, and they're clearly not where they would want to be, so the fan frustration is understandable (and I suspect the Wood situation is just one part of that).

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To be fair it can be frustrating when you can't score with your Wood

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