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Posted July 27, 2017 20:02 · last edited July 27, 2017 20:06

Smithy wrote:

The accreditation system is a good idea, in theory anyway.

I think your post is well considered, and agree with most of it. That said, its fair to recognise that Capital Football at some level, would prefer to have the 'best players' in its FTC sides and the national age grade tourno's, much in the same way that Colleges would also prefer this. So in much as they could establish some sort of accreditation, they are interested in the promotion of the game, and player development, but they are not an an out and out neutral party in what the right model is/should be, any more that the academies themselves, and any accreditation should be treated with some sceptiscim.

It would be fair to say that the local academies have clearly improved the level of Capital Football competitions at Senior and junior levels, that's a net good for Capital Football.


But oh yes, the School holiday branded "programs" are the worst of the worst.

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Unknown editor edited July 27, 2017 20:06
Smithy wrote:

The accreditation system is a good idea, in theory anyway.

I think your post is well considered, and agree with most of it. That said, its fair to recognise that Capital Football at some level, would prefer to have the 'best players' in its FTC sides and the national age grade tourno's, much in the same way that Colleges would also prefer this. So in much as they could establish some sort of accreditation, they are interested in the promotion of the game, and player development, but they are not an an out and out neutral party in what the right model is/should be, and any accreditation should be treated with some sceptiscim.

It would be fair to say that the local academies have clearly improved the level of Capital Football competitions at Senior and junior levels, that's a net good for Capital Football.


But oh yes, the School holiday branded "programs" are the worst of the worst.

Unknown editor edited July 27, 2017 20:05
Smithy wrote:

The accreditation system is a good idea, in theory anyway.

I think your post is well considered, and agree with most of it. That said, its fair to recognise that Capital Football at some level, would prefer to have the 'best players' in its FTC sides and the national age grade tourno's, much in the same way that Colleges would also prefer this. So in much as they could establish some sort of accreditation, they are interested in the promotion of the game, and player development, but they are not an an out and out neutral party in what the right model is/should be.

It would be fair to say that the local academies have clearly improved the level of Capital Football competitions at Senior and junior levels, that's a net good for Capital Football.


But oh yes, the School holiday branded "programs" are the worst of the worst.

Unknown editor edited July 27, 2017 20:04
Smithy wrote:
Critical_Lemon wrote:
Smithy wrote:
zonknz wrote:

That's a fair point, that there is a debate to be had. The proposition I read in that article seems to be about promoting the federations and schools interests , over the academies. 

I personally find it interesting that players are not seen as keen stakeholders in the discussion, and there is no.mention of player or parent engagement.

What value do you expect kids to add to the discussion?

Or to be honest most parents...

For me it isn't that they're not asking the kids, it's that it doesn't seem to take player development into account at all. The proposals mentioned are all about trying to let everyone have their cake and eat it too, which is going to do next to nothing about these tensions. All that is going to happen is clubs and academies will "officially" allow their players to do these things while quietly encouraging them to refuse to take part (also watch while the Phoenix academy get exempted from the requirements). Capital Football needs to decide if it wants players to get a consistent coaching message or let the current mess continue. If they are really concerned about player development the accreditation would be about the quality of the coaching at clubs and academies rather than who gets access to the players.

 

The accreditation system is a good idea, in theory anyway.

I think you post is well considered, and agree with most of it. That said, its fair to recognise that Capital Football at some level, would prefer to have the 'best players' in its FTC sides and the national age grade tourno's, much in the same way that Colleges would also prefer this. So in much as they could establish some sort of accreditation, they are interested in the promotion of the game, and player development, but they are not an an out and out neutral party.

It would be fair to say that the local academies have clearly improved the level of Capital Football competitions at Senior and junior levels, that's a good for Capital Football.


But oh yes, the School holiday branded "programs" are the worst of the worst.

Unknown editor edited July 27, 2017 20:03
Smithy wrote:
Critical_Lemon wrote:
Smithy wrote:
zonknz wrote:

That's a fair point, that there is a debate to be had. The proposition I read in that article seems to be about promoting the federations and schools interests , over the academies. 

I personally find it interesting that players are not seen as keen stakeholders in the discussion, and there is no.mention of player or parent engagement.

What value do you expect kids to add to the discussion?

Or to be honest most parents...

For me it isn't that they're not asking the kids, it's that it doesn't seem to take player development into account at all. The proposals mentioned are all about trying to let everyone have their cake and eat it too, which is going to do next to nothing about these tensions. All that is going to happen is clubs and academies will "officially" allow their players to do these things while quietly encouraging them to refuse to take part (also watch while the Phoenix academy get exempted from the requirements). Capital Football needs to decide if it wants players to get a consistent coaching message or let the current mess continue. If they are really concerned about player development the accreditation would be about the quality of the coaching at clubs and academies rather than who gets access to the players.

 

The accreditation system is a good idea, in theory anyway.

I think you post is well considered, and agree with most of it. That said, its fair to recognise that Capital Football at some level, would prefer to have the 'best players' in its FTC sides and the national age grade tourno's, much in the same way that Colleges would also prefer this. So in much as they could establish some sort of accreditation, they are not an an out and out neutral party.


But oh yes, the School holiday branded "programs" are the worst of the worst.