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Posted December 19, 2014 01:10 · last edited December 19, 2014 01:11

Jerzy Merino wrote:

ConanTroutman wrote:

Also, I hate to be the one that says it but there's only so much you can read into a handful of games in a few days on the other side of the planet. ACFC were a duffed penalty or two away from being knocked out by the Moroccan champs. San Lorenzo's coach admitted they were under prepared. ACFC played good football and had a great run against the odds but they also got dicked 4-0 by TeeDubs a few weeks ago and I don't recall any articles about how Matt Calcott is the saviour of New Zealand football.

Well done ACFC for playing with heart and not being overawed by the occasion, and for showing that you can go into games as the underdog and still play your own game. I'm not trying to belittle their acheivement. But I also think it would be easy for the kiwi media to read more into this than is actually there.

Edit: I really want to emphasize that I think ACFC were awesome and it was great to see, and it's a great result for football in this country as a whole. I'm aware that this sounds like I'm being a but of a dick but I just think it's a perspective on the games which needs to be considered

ACFC 0 Uzbekistan 0 ...

But again, its in context. TW 4-0. Does that then make TW better than 2 international teams and the 5th best team in timbuctoo? Its all about context and we can go round and round until we start yet another forum fight about who is better.

The biggest learning point from this is and I think trumps every single argument on what ever side of the coin you live on is that ACFC have the ability to stand up and perform. Like most sides, they are going to lose some games and when they left, no one expected them to get that far. It showed that in the Presidents Cup, against wherethefudgeistan and teams at CWC, they can stand up and perform and know how to turn it on. They will win this ASBP with really only having to put in 3-4 really good performances. Can they play at that high sustained level across x amount of games or are they are 3-4 week team? Do they need to play to that level against Southern, WaiBOP, Wanderers? (the answer is they probably play within themselves I would suspect) That's something we don't know but you can't deny they can turn it on when they need to.

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Jeff Vader edited December 19, 2014 01:11
Jerzy Merino wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:

Also, I hate to be the one that says it but there's only so much you can read into a handful of games in a few days on the other side of the planet. ACFC were a duffed penalty or two away from being knocked out by the Moroccan champs. San Lorenzo's coach admitted they were under prepared. ACFC played good football and had a great run against the odds but they also got dicked 4-0 by TeeDubs a few weeks ago and I don't recall any articles about how Matt Calcott is the saviour of New Zealand football.

Well done ACFC for playing with heart and not being overawed by the occasion, and for showing that you can go into games as the underdog and still play your own game. I'm not trying to belittle their acheivement. But I also think it would be easy for the kiwi media to read more into this than is actually there.

Edit: I really want to emphasize that I think ACFC were awesome and it was great to see, and it's a great result for football in this country as a whole. I'm aware that this sounds like I'm being a but of a dick but I just think it's a perspective on the games which needs to be considered

ACFC 0 Uzbekistan 0 ...

But again, its in context. TW 4-0. Does that then make TW better than 2 international teams and the 5th best team in timbuctoo? Its all about context and we can go round and round until we start yet another forum fight about who is better.

The biggest learning point from this is and I think trumps every single argument on what ever side of the coin you live on is that ACFC have the ability to stand up and perform. Like most sides, they are going to lose some games and when they left, no one expected them to get that far. It showed that in the Presidents Cup, against wherethefudgeistan and teams at CWC, they can stand up and perform and know how to turn it on. They will win this ASBP I think but can they play at that high sustained level across x amount of games or are they are 3-4 week team? Do they need to play to that level against Southern, WaiBOP, Wanderers? (the answer is they probably play within themselves I would suspect) That's something we don't know but you can't deny they can turn it on when they need to.

Jeff Vader edited December 19, 2014 01:11
Jerzy Merino wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:

Also, I hate to be the one that says it but there's only so much you can read into a handful of games in a few days on the other side of the planet. ACFC were a duffed penalty or two away from being knocked out by the Moroccan champs. San Lorenzo's coach admitted they were under prepared. ACFC played good football and had a great run against the odds but they also got dicked 4-0 by TeeDubs a few weeks ago and I don't recall any articles about how Matt Calcott is the saviour of New Zealand football.

Well done ACFC for playing with heart and not being overawed by the occasion, and for showing that you can go into games as the underdog and still play your own game. I'm not trying to belittle their acheivement. But I also think it would be easy for the kiwi media to read more into this than is actually there.

Edit: I really want to emphasize that I think ACFC were awesome and it was great to see, and it's a great result for football in this country as a whole. I'm aware that this sounds like I'm being a but of a dick but I just think it's a perspective on the games which needs to be considered

ACFC 0 Uzbekistan 0 ...

But again, its in context. TW 4-0. Does that then make TW better than 2 international teams and the 5th best team in timbuctoo? Its all about context and we can go round and round until we start yet another forum fight about who is better.

The biggest learning point from this is and I think trumps every single argument on what ever side of the coin you live on is that ACFC have the ability to stand up and perform. Like most sides, they are going to lose some games and when they left, no one expected them to get that far. It showed that in the Presidents Cup, against wherethefudgeistan and teams at CWC, they can stand up and perform and know how to turn in on. They will win this ASBP I think but can they play at that high sustained level across x amount of games or are they are 3-4 week team? Do they need to play to that level against Southern, WaiBOP, Wanderers? (the answer is they probably play within themselves I would suspect) That's something we don't know but you can't deny they can turn it on when they need to.

Jeff Vader edited December 19, 2014 01:10
Jerzy Merino wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:

Also, I hate to be the one that says it but there's only so much you can read into a handful of games in a few days on the other side of the planet. ACFC were a duffed penalty or two away from being knocked out by the Moroccan champs. San Lorenzo's coach admitted they were under prepared. ACFC played good football and had a great run against the odds but they also got dicked 4-0 by TeeDubs a few weeks ago and I don't recall any articles about how Matt Calcott is the saviour of New Zealand football.

Well done ACFC for playing with heart and not being overawed by the occasion, and for showing that you can go into games as the underdog and still play your own game. I'm not trying to belittle their acheivement. But I also think it would be easy for the kiwi media to read more into this than is actually there.

Edit: I really want to emphasize that I think ACFC were awesome and it was great to see, and it's a great result for football in this country as a whole. I'm aware that this sounds like I'm being a but of a dick but I just think it's a perspective on the games which needs to be considered

ACFC 0 Uzbekistan 0 ...

But again, its on context. TW 4-0. Does that then make TW better than 2 international teams and the 5th best team in timbuctoo? Its all about context and we can go round and round until we start yet another forum fight about who is better.

The biggest learning point from this is and I think trumps every single argument on what ever side of the coin you live on is that ACFC have the ability to stand up and perform. Like most sides, they are going to lose some games and when they left, no one expected them to get that far. It showed that in the Presidents Cup, against wherethefudgeistan and teams at CWC, they can stand up and perform and know how to turn in on. They will win this ASBP I think but can they play at that high sustained level across x amount of games or are they are 3-4 week team? Do they need to play to that level against Southern, WaiBOP, Wanderers? (the answer is they probably play within themselves I would suspect) That's something we don't know but you can't deny they can turn it on when they need to.