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Posted April 12, 2024 00:13 · last edited April 12, 2024 00:22

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Martin, you say "Fox News has weakened and corrupted the respect for journalism in the States" because blaming the evil righty fits with your ideology. Meanwhile, as the NPR editor discusses, it's actually outlets like NPR who, in trying to force their own narrative, eroded their own credibility.

This exactly attitude is the problem. "It's not us, it's them."

It’s fair to look at Trump as something that further broke the system and is intent on doing so further.

Lol- some of that NPR stuff does remind me of this brilliant piece of Aussie publicly funded TV. I think you’ll like it:
But I’d say that most of it came from asking legitimate questions such as how do we still have so many police killings of restrained people of colour, which then came up with a solution which was overreach or failed it’s mandate. 

That’s a fairly legitimate question. As is the one about serving all communities. But, unlike Fox, I see this as something that will be rowed back and find something more in the middle. 

As well I’d disagree with his characterisation of stories. The Mueller report was written in such a way as to leave the rest to the relevant committee to follow its prosecution, rather than his view that it had nothing. 

Similarly I listened to on going interviews with a scientist based in a university in the UK and he gave the reasons it was believed that the disease hadn’t come out of the disease centre. With its medical system and its marketing of drugs, the US has hurt the prestige of its doctors and scientists. But I believed the chap from the UK. He seemed sincere in his public information role and his explanations. As well the prediction of a pandemic (in the presidential briefings) arising from a similar cross species event and the diseases of the past decades fit that explanation. I don’t think it possible to judge that it came from a lab. And the reasons scientists gave for it not being so were reasonable. 

Hunter Biden’s laptop is one I don’t know a lot about. From what I’ve understood there was nothing incriminating linking the son to wrongdoing by the president. I think a few minor tax matters have come up? 
But when you are barraged by, for example, Benghazi and other constant nonsense it makes separating a legitimate story harder. 

All of which is to say, these are some fair and some unfair criticisms of a weedy, weakling public news organisation. There’s no equivalence to reporting the election as stolen on no evidence or giving time to those spreading that absolute canard. 

Sometimes the left is the turkey. But here it’s not the case, in my opinion. It’s a false equivalence.

Every country has different press regulations and different libel laws for example. But usually even the Murdoch press still had journalists who were held accountable to some kind of code of ethics. These new self funded and ‘independent’ sources are dangerous because they don’t subscribe to any of that. As you can see with One America News listing a phone number for an election worker and telling its audience, who they’ve already falsely told that these officials are committing election fraud, to call them. 

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Martin, you say "Fox News has weakened and corrupted the respect for journalism in the States" because blaming the evil righty fits with your ideology. Meanwhile, as the NPR editor discusses, it's actually outlets like NPR who, in trying to force their own narrative, eroded their own credibility.

This exactly attitude is the problem. "It's not us, it's them."

It’s fair to look at Trump as something that further broke the system and is intent on doing so further.

Lol- some of that NPR stuff does remind me of this brilliant piece of Aussie publicly funded TV. I think you’ll like it:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ifV7IkGVqaY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>
But I’d say that most of it came from asking legitimate questions such as how do we still have so many police killings of restrained people of colour, which then came up with a solution which was overreach or failed it’s mandate. 

That’s a fairly legitimate question. As is the one about serving all communities. But, unlike Fox, I see this as something that will be rowed back and find something more in the middle. 

As well I’d disagree with his characterisation of stories. The Mueller report was written in such a way as to leave the rest to the relevant committee to follow its prosecution, rather than his view that it had nothing. 

Similarly I listened to on going interviews with a scientist based in a university in the UK and he gave the reasons it was believed that the disease hadn’t come out of the disease centre. With its medical system and its marketing of drugs, the US has hurt the prestige of its doctors and scientists. But I believed the chap from the UK. He seemed sincere in his public information role and his explanations. As well the prediction of a pandemic (in the presidential briefings) arising from a similar cross species event and the diseases of the past decades fit that explanation. I don’t think it possible to judge that it came from a lab. And the reasons scientists gave for it not being so were reasonable. 

Hunter Biden’s laptop is one I don’t know a lot about. From what I’ve understood there was nothing incriminating linking the son to wrongdoing by the president. I think a few minor tax matters have come up? 
But when you are barraged by, for example, Benghazi and other constant nonsense it makes separating a legitimate story harder. 

All of which is to say, these are some fair and some unfair criticisms of a weedy, weakling public news organisation. There’s no equivalence to reporting the election as stolen on no evidence or giving time to those spreading that absolute canard. 

Sometimes the left is the turkey. But here it’s not the case, in my opinion. It’s a false equivalence.

Unknown editor edited April 12, 2024 00:16
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Martin, you say "Fox News has weakened and corrupted the respect for journalism in the States" because blaming the evil righty fits with your ideology. Meanwhile, as the NPR editor discusses, it's actually outlets like NPR who, in trying to force their own narrative, eroded their own credibility.

This exactly attitude is the problem. "It's not us, it's them."

It’s fair to look at Trump as something that further broke the system and is intent on doing so further.

Lol- some of that NPR stuff does remind me of this brilliant piece of Aussie publicly funded TV. I think you’ll like it:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ifV7IkGVqaY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>
But I’d say that most of it came from asking legitimate questions such as how do we still have so many police killings of restrained people of colour, which then came up with a solution which was overreach or failed it’s mandate. 

That’s a fairly legitimate question. As is the one about serving all communities. But, unlike Fox, I see this as something that will be rowed back and find something more in the middle. 

As well I’d disagree with his characterisation of stories. The Mueller report was written in such a way as to leave the rest to the relevant committee to follow its prosecution, rather than his view that it had nothing. 

Similarly I listened to on going interviews with a scientist based in a university in the UK and he gave the reasons it was believed that the disease hadn’t come out of the disease centre. With its medical system and its marketing of drugs, the US has hurt the prestige of its doctors and scientists. But I believed the chap from the UK. He seemed sincere in his public information role and his explanations. As well the prediction of a pandemic (in the preside briefings) arising from a similar cross species event and the diseases of the past decades fit that explanation. I don’t think it possible to judge that it came from a lab. And the reasons scientists gave for it not being so were reasonable. 

Hunter Biden’s laptop is one I don’t know a lot about. From what I’ve understood there was nothing incriminating linking the son to wrongdoing by the president. I think a few minor tax matters have come up? 
But when you are barraged by, for example, Benghazi and other constant nonsense it makes separating a legitimate story harder. 

All of which is to say, these are some fair and some unfair criticisms of a weedy, weakling public news organisation. There’s no equivalence to reporting the election as stolen on no evidence or giving time to those spreading that absolute canard. 

Sometimes the left is the turkey. But here it’s not the case, in my opinion. It’s a false equivalence.