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New a-league team

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
StopOut wrote:
I remember those bad old National League days when a quarter of the league got relegated (Stop Out being one of them ). I seem to recall that before the reversion to regional leagues there was for a few years an 'invitation only' national league. Clubs had to submit proposals to be included and there was a lot of bad blood over the selections. Hutt Valley Utd were an unfortunately short-lived example.
 
Some care will need to be exercised with the A League because there is only so much playing talent around, and expanding too much at this stage runs the risk of lowering the standard of the game. Football is riding a wave but despite the surge in popularity it is still vulnerable. The last thing the A League needs is 2 or 3 clubs going bust because of the same reasons that sank the Knights, ie, poor administration, small crowds, no money.
 
 I grew up on those Sundays at Te Whiti Park StopOut, so feel for your loss.
 
One way of expanding the A-League, which I think needs to happen to make the competition more interesting and the season extended, without necessarily lowering the standard, is for the FFA to increase the number of allowed imports and marquee players per team.  What do people think about that suggestion?  The A-League is going to struggle to get better with only 8 clubs.  That is, the players have to be playing for more than 6 months of the year.  But StopOut is right, no point expanding if it lowers the overall standard.
 
 
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Increasing the imports affects the AFC import policy for Champion League and in turn you can't have extra imports for two A-League sides above the other A-League sides it won't be an even playing field.

There is enough players to go to 12 teams in A-league at least and later may be 16 teams maximum. I personally would like two more NZ A-league teams at the end of the day. That should cover the country well enough. One based in ChCh and another Auck. We not there yet but it wouldn't hurt.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Increasing the imports affects the AFC import policy for Champion League and in turn you can't have extra imports for two A-League sides above the other A-League sides it won't be an even playing field.

There is enough players to go to 12 teams in A-league at least and later may be 16 teams maximum. I personally would like two more NZ A-league teams at the end of the day. That should cover the country well enough. One based in ChCh and another Auck. We not there yet but it wouldn't hurt.


i think you may be pushing it a little at present with 12 teams...maybe in 6-7 years, baby footsteps will build it into a sustainable, competitive comp.

instead of increasing import slots i'd look at increasing the salary cap/2nd marquee spot. It'd be a good way of keeping talent in the comp, thus raising the standard.
gings2008-01-28 23:13:22


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gings wrote:


Increasing the imports affects the AFC import policy for Champion League and in turn you can't have extra imports for two A-League sides above the other A-League sides it won't be an even playing field.

There is enough players to go to 12 teams in A-league at least and later may be 16 teams maximum. I personally would like two more NZ A-league teams at the end of the day. That should cover the country well enough. One based in ChCh and another Auck. We not there yet but it wouldn't hurt.
i think you may be pushing it a little at present with 12 teams...maybe in 6-7 years, baby footsteps will build it into a sustainable, competitive comp.instead of increasing import slots i'd look at increasing the salary cap/2nd marquee spot. It'd be a good way of keeping talent in the comp, thus raising the standard.


Well there are very good teams not consider but are too strong in their state premier leagues. Plus two states not being represented. i.e. ACT doesn't have an A-League Rep but CCM manager intents to trial two players from ACT per year. But sydney are likely to be the main player path. Tasmania is looking for a spot and they don't have an A-League, they lose young talent players to Melbourne because they lack a statewide competition that splits into a north and south leagues. Remember Wollongong was the old NSL stronghold and Melbourne did have the means for a second club because they have the highest number of players there. . . . 12 is very close in the next 3-4 years. As it is, 10 teams are looking likely next season. In two years time, all the Aussie 7 franchises will have their five year licence review as well as Phoenix's three year licence review.

Believe it or not, I think that Perth Glory will be first in the firing because of the low crowds, ownership history and then another club in Western Australia may applied if they don't pick up for the two years because the first two seasons was a disaster and the third season was a bit of a recovery.
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ACT isn't a state. it's a territory 

I'd love to see Wollongong get an A-League franchise, they'd be my second team after the Phoenix.Tasmania would be good too because they have no competition in terms of major league sport. But we don't want to rush and over-expand, there's too many examples of that being a bad thing
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In a league of this type, teams aren't going to be selected on a purely geographical basis. The powers that be in the A League won't give a rats ass that Tasmania doesn't have an A League team, they will be looking at if the area can sustain one in terms of financial and crowd support, television and marketing potential etc. I think one of the questions going around about Canberra is that they don't appear to have the right environment to attract a large sponsor or owner, given that most of the big businesses are government agencies.
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muso wrote:
eh? Phoenix is a mean name... what u on about lol, its miles better than victory, mariners, glory n all that crap aussies come up with, and its a symbol 
 
Agree, although you OUGHT TO agree with me that the worst name ever is Newcastle Jets.
I mean, are they a football team or not?? What's jet got to do with football??????
 
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This is off todays Fourfourtwo website.
 

EXCLUSIVE: The chances of the A-League gaining a foothold in the lucrative Gold Coast market have been boosted by an AFL decision on the weekend. The AFL has announced that a team playing on the Gold Coast has been pushed back until 2011.

The code initially planned a Gold Coast-based 17th franchise to be part of its 2010 season after North Melbourne rejected a $100 million proposal to relocate north.

However, the sport's bosses feel a new franchise will require more time to be planned.

The AFL's failure to secure a deal to redevelop Carrara Stadium also remains a stumbling block for a new team, which also requires the approval of at least five of the 16 existing clubs, reported Fairfax online.

Currently, an A-League franchise under the working title Gold Coast Galaxy has impressed FFA bosses who are expected to make a decision on the club's inclusion in the league by this March.

It's not clear whether Gold Coast would be included in next season's league or the following season. However, news of the AFL's decision may sway College Street into bringing Gold Coast in as early as possible, in order to give the club as much of a headstart as possible.

The Gold Coast is one of Australia's fastest growing regions and has a successful NRL franchise which has only been running for a season.
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In a league of this type, teams aren't going to be selected on a purely geographical basis. The powers that be in the A League won't give a rats ass that Tasmania doesn't have an A League team, they will be looking at if the area can sustain one in terms of financial and crowd support, television and marketing potential etc. I think one of the questions going around about Canberra is that they don't appear to have the right environment to attract a large sponsor or owner, given that most of the big businesses are government agencies.


http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,22575203-13222,00.html

"Buckley, who grew up in Tasmania ..."

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"Buckley said Tasmania was not the forgotten state in FFA plans and involvement in the A-League was not out of the question.

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"If someone in Tasmania comes forward with a proposal that is appealing, we'd have to review it."

"I spent my teenage years growing up in Tasmania and I certainly know where the state is and I don't think it's the forgotten state.

"I think the game has come a long way here in recent periods."

Chuq2008-02-20 16:19:22
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gold coast are almost certain already got deals for three players in the grand final.

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That isn't what the article says...

...what it says is that they have three players in the GF on the shopping list.  That is very different to having deals.

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Greek-Boi wrote:

gold coast are almost certain already got deals for three players in the grand final.



From what Lowy said on TWG, "i'm confident we will have two new teams next season", Gold Coast and North Qld are unofficially confirmed - as in, they aren't confirmed yet, but everyone knows they are 99.99% likely to be confirmed in the next week.
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