Posted September 01, 2021 05:12
· last edited September 01, 2021 05:20
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Denmark only has a 71% vac rate yet they are lifting all restrictions so the country can get back to 'normal 'life' This is the only way to go. What happens if NZ only gets to 70% as the other 30% refuse to get the vac. Do you make it mandatory or do you still keep going into lockdown. Countries cannot survive continuous lockdowns as they will cripple the economy. theprof
Leggy
The problem is that there are too many people that want the lockdowns to continue plus the anti vaxers. They seem to thing that there is an endless amount of money that the government will keep throwing at it. They are happy to live in their rabbit hole. I have met such people and there is no common sense at all. I certainly don't want to live the rest of my life like that.
While I'm not vaccinated (yet) and until we reach the 80-90% level of vaccinated across the country then I'd expect lockdowns to continue, as this is the most effective way of stopping transmission. Virus cant reproduce it dies out! Hopefully with enough people vaccinated if and when COVID comes back it will only require those who get sick to isolate for a short time and the rest of the country keeps moving. That's how I see the "live with it" working. We are not there yet and will probably only get there by the end of the year. The Aussies/US/UK trying live with it with lower than 80% vaxxed is just plain arrogance and recklessness for mine.
We cross that bridge when we come to it, but modeling that I've seen shows that delta needs 90% vaccination rate.
Based on registrations it looks like we'll hit 80% pretty easily (I think it was 76% of people over the age of 30 had registered for a vaccine), above that is where it gets tougher. Australia seems to think that 70% is enough to re-open, no doubt our modelers and scientists are watching what happens in these countries.
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Unknown editoredited September 01, 2021 05:20
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Denmark only has a 71% vac rate yet they are lifting all restrictions so the country can get back to 'normal 'life' This is the only way to go. What happens if NZ only gets to 70% as the other 30% refuse to get the vac. Do you make it mandatory or do you still keep going into lockdown. Countries cannot survive continuous lockdowns as they will cripple the economy. theprof
Leggy
The problem is that there are too many people that want the lockdowns to continue plus the anti vaxers. They seem to thing that there is an endless amount of money that the government will keep throwing at it. They are happy to live in their rabbit hole. I have met such people and there is no common sense at all. I certainly don't want to live the rest of my life like that.
While I'm not vaccinated (yet) and until we reach the 80-90% level of vaccinated across the country then I'd expect lockdowns to continue, as this is the most effective way of stopping transmission. Virus cant reproduce it dies out! Hopefully with enough people vaccinated if and when COVID comes back it will only require those who get sick to isolate for a short time and the rest of the country keeps moving. That's how I see the "live with it" working. We are not there yet and will probably only get there by the end of the year. The Aussies/US/UK trying live with it with lower than 80% vaxxed is just plain arrogance and recklessness for mine.
We cross that bridge when we come to it, but modeling that I've seen shows that delta needs 90% vaccination rate.
Based on registrations it looks like we'll hit 80% pretty easily, above that is where it gets tougher. Australia seems to think that 80% is enough to re-open, it will be interesting to see if our scientists have the same opinion.
Unknown editoredited September 01, 2021 05:14
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Denmark only has a 71% vac rate yet they are lifting all restrictions so the country can get back to 'normal 'life' This is the only way to go. What happens if NZ only gets to 70% as the other 30% refuse to get the vac. Do you make it mandatory or do you still keep going into lockdown. Countries cannot survive continuous lockdowns as they will cripple the economy. theprof
Leggy
The problem is that there are too many people that want the lockdowns to continue plus the anti vaxers. They seem to thing that there is an endless amount of money that the government will keep throwing at it. They are happy to live in their rabbit hole. I have met such people and there is no common sense at all. I certainly don't want to live the rest of my life like that.
While I'm not vaccinated (yet) and until we reach the 80-90% level of vaccinated across the country then I'd expect lockdowns to continue, as this is the most effective way of stopping transmission. Virus cant reproduce it dies out! Hopefully with enough people vaccinated if and when COVID comes back it will only require those who get sick to isolate for a short time and the rest of the country keeps moving. That's how I see the "live with it" working. We are not there yet and will probably only get there by the end of the year. The Aussies/US/UK trying live with it with lower than 80% vaxxed is just plain arrogance and recklessness for mine.
We cross that bridge when we come to it, but modeling shows that delta needs 90% vaccination. Based on registrations it looks like we'll hit 80% pretty easily, above that is where it gets tougher.
Unknown editoredited September 01, 2021 05:12
Leggy
Denmark only has a 71% vac rate yet they are lifting all restrictions so the country can get back to 'normal 'life' This is the only way to go. What happens if NZ only gets to 70% as the other 30% refuse to get the vac. Do you make it mandatory or do you still keep going into lockdown. Countries cannot survive continuous lockdowns as they will cripple the economy. theprof
Leggy
The problem is that there are too many people that want the lockdowns to continue plus the anti vaxers. They seem to thing that there is an endless amount of money that the government will keep throwing at it. They are happy to live in their rabbit hole. I have met such people and there is no common sense at all. I certainly don't want to live the rest of my life like that.
While I'm not vaccinated (yet) and until we reach the 80-90% level of vaccinated across the country then I'd expect lockdowns to continue, as this is the most effective way of stopping transmission. Virus cant reproduce it dies out! Hopefully with enough people vaccinated if and when COVID comes back it will only require those who get sick to isolate for a short time and the rest of the country keeps moving. That's how I see the "live with it" working. We are not there yet and will probably only get there by the end of the year. The Aussies/US/UK trying live with it with lower than 80% vaxxed is just plain arrogance and recklessness for mine.
We cross that bridge when we come to it, but modeling shows that delta needs 90% vaccination. Based on registrations it looks like we'll hit 80% pretty easily, above that is where it gets tougher.Leggy
Denmark only has a 71% vac rate yet they are lifting all restrictions so the country can get back to 'normal 'life' This is the only way to go. What happens if NZ only gets to 70% as the other 30% refuse to get the vac. Do you make it mandatory or do you still keep going into lockdown. Countries cannot survive continuous lockdowns as they will cripple the economy. theprof
Leggy
The problem is that there are too many people that want the lockdowns to continue plus the anti vaxers. They seem to thing that there is an endless amount of money that the government will keep throwing at it. They are happy to live in their rabbit hole. I have met such people and there is no common sense at all. I certainly don't want to live the rest of my life like that.
While I'm not vaccinated (yet) and until we reach the 80-90% level of vaccinated across the country then I'd expect lockdowns to continue, as this is the most effective way of stopping transmission. Virus cant reproduce it dies out! Hopefully with enough people vaccinated if and when COVID comes back it will only require those who get sick to isolate for a short time and the rest of the country keeps moving. That's how I see the "live with it" working. We are not there yet and will probably only get there by the end of the year. The Aussies/US/UK trying live with it with lower than 80% vaxxed is just plain arrogance and recklessness for mine.
You educate people and places put restrictions on them that makes life tough - like workplaces requiring vaccinations, travel requiring vaccin