Craft Beer - a thread of beer snobbery and looking down one's nose

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Ryan wrote:

Definitely keen to pick the brains of a local who's been there done that though - so will hit you up if I have any Qs.

I'm not sure where your based Ryan, but if you're in/near the Hutt I can recommend having a chat to Paul at Brew Zealand in Petone... he knows his stuff and is happy to share his knowledge (and no, not just to sell you stuff lol).

Myself, I've lost by brewing mojo since moving and buying a house (too many other things to spend $$$$ on) but when I get my ducks in a row am keen to move from a basic extract setup to BIAB. Have seen a couple of demos at BZ and it looks to be the next logical step for a beginner (without many hundreds to spend on a Grainfather setup - haha).

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SurgeQld wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Definitely keen to pick the brains of a local who's been there done that though - so will hit you up if I have any Qs.

I'm not sure where your based Ryan, but if you're in/near the Hutt I can recommend having a chat to Paul at Brew Zealand in Petone... he knows his stuff and is happy to share his knowledge (and no, not just to sell you stuff lol).

Myself, I've lost by brewing mojo since moving and buying a house (too many other things to spend $$$$ on) but when I get my ducks in a row am keen to move from a basic extract setup to BIAB. Have seen a couple of demos at BZ and it looks to be the next logical step for a beginner (without many hundreds to spend on a Grainfather setup - haha).

Went past BZ the other day and it appeared to have closed down...might be wrong though.

Also...Had a Moa Sour Cherry Lambic a couple of days ago. Awful stuff.

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Is that the one that tastes like a shark rosé? Think I tried it well into the night at the Malthouse a month or two ago.

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Went past BZ the other day and it appeared to have closed down...might be wrong though.

I hope not, he's a good bloke (aside from supporting Everton lol).
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Oska wrote:

Is that the one that tastes like a shark rosé? Think I tried it well into the night at the Malthouse a month or two ago.

That's the one. They also do a Blanc Sour - not sure why Moa insist on these beers brewed to seem like wine styles. They are rubbish and Moa have lost their way significantly. 

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LeighboNZ wrote:

That's the one. They also do a Blanc Sour - not sure why Moa insist on these beers brewed to seem like wine styles. They are rubbish and Moa have lost their way significantly. 

Josh Scott who started Moa is the son of Allen Scott the winemaker, so the influence comes from there - I saw something the other day where they were going to make craft wines using a blend of grapes and hops, although they may be doing that under the Allen Scott label rather than Moa

and back to the original topic - I picked up a limited release Tuatara Conehead ($8) at New World Thorndon the other day, really really nice (but you do need to like hops)


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LeighboNZ wrote:

That's the one. They also do a Blanc Sour - not sure why Moa insist on these beers brewed to seem like wine styles. They are rubbish and Moa have lost their way significantly. 

Josh Scott who started Moa is the son of Allen Scott the winemaker, so the influence comes from there - I saw something the other day where they were going to make craft wines using a blend of grapes and hops, although they may be doing that under the Allen Scott label rather than Moa

and back to the original topic - I picked up a limited release Tuatara Conehead ($8) at New World Thorndon the other day, really really nice (but you do need to like hops)


Classic case of just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should (unless you are Garage Project and nail it 95% of the time)

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LeighboNZ wrote:

SurgeQld wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Definitely keen to pick the brains of a local who's been there done that though - so will hit you up if I have any Qs.

I'm not sure where your based Ryan, but if you're in/near the Hutt I can recommend having a chat to Paul at Brew Zealand in Petone... he knows his stuff and is happy to share his knowledge (and no, not just to sell you stuff lol).

Myself, I've lost by brewing mojo since moving and buying a house (too many other things to spend $$$$ on) but when I get my ducks in a row am keen to move from a basic extract setup to BIAB. Have seen a couple of demos at BZ and it looks to be the next logical step for a beginner (without many hundreds to spend on a Grainfather setup - haha).

Went past BZ the other day and it appeared to have closed down...might be wrong though.

Also...Had a Moa Sour Cherry Lambic a couple of days ago. Awful stuff.

I quite enjoyed the cherry lambic that I tried, being a wild beer I think it differs year on year.

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Giving the Rogue Hop Organic Pilsner a shot with my curried lentils tonight - not bad

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Big fan of both rogue hop and curried lentils. Currently sipping the Harrington's ESB, and also considering curry. Unfortunately did not think to soak any lentils this morning.

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I was at a craft beer festival a couple of months ago, and talking to a brewer about sour beers. He was going on about how it is a massively growing trend, and will be everywhere in the near future. He gave me some to try and it was fudgeing awful. 

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Frankie Mac wrote:

I was at a craft beer festival a couple of months ago, and talking to a brewer about sour beers. He was going on about how it is a massively growing trend, and will be everywhere in the near future. He gave me some to try and it was fudgeing awful. 

I like some of the Sour beers I've tried but that Moa stuff was just poor.

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Had the ParrotDog BloodyDingo last night - its basically a cross between a red ale and an IPA. Was quite nice but a little bit too full on I thought. A bit less hoppy and a bit less strong (7.7% and you could tell) and it would be great IMO

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Had the ParrotDog BloodyDingo last night - its basically a cross between a red ale and an IPA. Was quite nice but a little bit too full on I thought. A bit less hoppy and a bit less strong (7.7% and you could tell) and it would be great IMO

Have you tried the Panhead Canheads range yet? Brilliant marketing and brilliant beer as well. 

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Not yet, but I'll give it a go :)

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

I was at a craft beer festival a couple of months ago, and talking to a brewer about sour beers. He was going on about how it is a massively growing trend, and will be everywhere in the near future. He gave me some to try and it was fudgeing awful. 

I like some of the Sour beers I've tried but that Moa stuff was just poor.

Sour beers wont be in my fridge, cant stand them, fudgeing fudgeing awful. 

They had a sour night at Brothers last year I think it was, I couldnt get why any brewers would waste good malt like that.

Had an Emersons London porter on tap at a bar in Nelson today, very nice, smooth, tending towards a choclatey stout

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Man I'm all over NZ beers at the moment.

Epic Pale Ale - yum

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Just got a couple of bottles of Stoke Recognition Rich Porter to go with dinner tonight

much excite  8)

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Had the ParrotDog BloodyDingo last night - its basically a cross between a red ale and an IPA. Was quite nice but a little bit too full on I thought. A bit less hoppy and a bit less strong (7.7% and you could tell) and it would be great IMO

Have you tried the Panhead Canheads range yet? Brilliant marketing and brilliant beer as well. 

Had a look at New World Chaffers the other day but they only had the standard Panhead range - do you know what bottle stores in central Wellington have it? Chur
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LeighboNZ wrote:

Had the ParrotDog BloodyDingo last night - its basically a cross between a red ale and an IPA. Was quite nice but a little bit too full on I thought. A bit less hoppy and a bit less strong (7.7% and you could tell) and it would be great IMO

Have you tried the Panhead Canheads range yet? Brilliant marketing and brilliant beer as well. 

Had a look at New World Chaffers the other day but they only had the standard Panhead range - do you know what bottle stores in central Wellington have it? Chur

Regional's. Also Island Bay New World had them.

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liberty_nz wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

Had the ParrotDog BloodyDingo last night - its basically a cross between a red ale and an IPA. Was quite nice but a little bit too full on I thought. A bit less hoppy and a bit less strong (7.7% and you could tell) and it would be great IMO

Have you tried the Panhead Canheads range yet? Brilliant marketing and brilliant beer as well. 

Had a look at New World Chaffers the other day but they only had the standard Panhead range - do you know what bottle stores in central Wellington have it? Chur

Regional's. Also Island Bay New World had them.

Was surprised to see canheads at Karori New World. Good to see the supermarkets slowly expanding their beer range. Thorndon New World is probably the best, even better than most liquor stores.

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Yeah Chaffers normally has a pretty good range for a supermarket too

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Boundary Road Coffee Oatmeal Stout

Arabica Dabra baby

craft beer? dunno but its going down well

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Panhead can head Lola deville. Maybe it's my mood but I'm not feeling it.
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hamezilla wrote:

Boundary Road Coffee Oatmeal Stout

Arabica Dabra baby

craft beer? dunno but its going down well

I tried that last year, absolutely hated it - thought it tasted of burnt coffee grounds and nothing else. Usually like coffee beers but also tend to find Boundary Road disappointing.
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Can't expect to much from the same brewery that makes ranfurly.
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Roger that but $4.99 a bottle & I'm not very sophisticated anyway

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hamezilla wrote:

Roger that but $4.99 a bottle & I'm not very sophisticated anyway

$4.99 is way too much to pay for Ranfurly. And I didn't even realise it came in bottles...
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I think you'll find that ranfurly pioneered the whole craft beer in cans movement. Unsung hero IMHO.
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The fine folk who make Doub'le Braun might disagree with you there

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Also, does anyone remember Viking? It was brewed by the Mill about 12 years ago before Brenner and that, and it had the tagline "Conquer the Taste". Which was basically admitting it tasted like arse. It was 8 bucks a dozen though.

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Ranfurly got me through tertiary education. $15 for a dozen 440ml cans. 

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Ranfurly got me through tertiary education. $15 for a dozen 440ml cans. 

Yeah cheeper than water. I actually did a marketing paper for some reason, and my project was a ranfurly bar with ranfurly fountains.

I bought Viking when I couldn't afford flame.

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Flame was 5.2% IIRC - as opposed to the measly 4% of Viking, Tui, Ranfurly, DoBros etc. Tasted fudgeing horrible though.

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Ahhhhh Flame... whilst most of us (sales/admin/head office) people would get Monteiths, Heineken or Export Dry for our monthly allocation - the boys in the warehouse would always go with the 5.2% of flaming goodness. It was all about the bang for (no) buck lol.

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SurgeQld wrote:

Ahhhhh Flame... whilst most of us (sales/admin/head office) people would get Monteiths, Heineken or Export Dry for our monthly allocation - the boys in the warehouse would always go with the 5.2% of flaming goodness. It was all about the bang for (no) buck lol.

Lion Ice? Even came in an 18 pack with a foil lined box for those 'lazy student days' at the beach. 

Black Ice as well...

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Yep flame (along with ranfurly with the 440ml cans) was all about value. Even then I knew that it tasted like shark.

But in hindsight if my goal was just to get drunk cheapily I should have been buying cask wine.

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I tried the cask wine approach for a few months as a student but the hangovers were way too brutal I found

Craft Beer - a thread of beer snobbery and looking down one's nose

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