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Posted August 18, 2017 00:50 · last edited August 18, 2017 02:11

Ryan wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Ryan wrote:

james dean wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Yep, under the threshold right now - fell something like 11%

This is the problem with the current system, people don't want their vote to be wasted so if a party is hovering around or under that 5% mark then people will vote for a party which is polling higher.

I vote Green and think that they are the only party which has any hope of saving our economy, however without the Greens a lot of people who support Labor but vote National will return. There is a major branding issue with the Green Party and people really don't understand what they stand for / are scared of them for no reason.

Because quite reasonably people (a) don't know whether they are (symbolically) voting for James Shaw or Metirea Turei when they vote Green and (b) many people don't think that left wing ideas will bring prosperity to the country

Why would people think they're voting for Turei, she stood down? I'm sure that the Greens will get above 5% but it's clear that they're going to be greatly diminished.

Green policy isn't left wing, like most parties they have a mixture of left, right, and centrist policies. But they're the only ones who take into account the fact that we are at the cusp of a revolution in technology and labor.

The Greens are left wing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_Aotea...

No NZ party is purely on either side of the political spectrum, I should have said that their policy isn't purely left wing. The whole concept of wings is just a way of categorizing and dismissing things out of hand. It's just an excuse for people to avoid actually looking at policy. Lumping things into categories without attempting to understand them is an unfortunate human trait which leads to most problems with our society.

I think you are wrong by saying that wings is just a way categorizing and dismissing things. I thing most people look at policy before making a decision.A lot of what the Greens say is great, but in theory it does  not work.

Regardless what you say, the Green Party is left wing. I don't care, as in a democracy everyone has the right to chose. Also if they were to get in it won't affect me.

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Ryan wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Ryan wrote:
james dean wrote:
Ryan wrote:

Yep, under the threshold right now - fell something like 11%

This is the problem with the current system, people don't want their vote to be wasted so if a party is hovering around or under that 5% mark then people will vote for a party which is polling higher.

I vote Green and think that they are the only party which has any hope of saving our economy, however without the Greens a lot of people who support Labor but vote National will return. There is a major branding issue with the Green Party and people really don't understand what they stand for / are scared of them for no reason.

Because quite reasonably people (a) don't know whether they are (symbolically) voting for James Shaw or Metirea Turei when they vote Green and (b) many people don't think that left wing ideas will bring prosperity to the country

Why would people think they're voting for Turei, she stood down? I'm sure that the Greens will get above 5% but it's clear that they're going to be greatly diminished.

Green policy isn't left wing, like most parties they have a mixture of left, right, and centrist policies. But they're the only ones who take into account the fact that we are at the cusp of a revolution in technology and labor.

The Greens are left wing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_Aotea...

No NZ party is purely on either side of the political spectrum, I should have said that their policy isn't purely left wing. The whole concept of wings is just a way of categorizing and dismissing things out of hand. It's just an excuse for people to avoid actually looking at policy. Lumping things into categories without attempting to understand them is an unfortunate human trait which leads to most problems with our society.

I think you are wrong by saying that wings is just a way categorizing and dismissing things. I thing most people look at policy before making a decision.A lot of what the Greens say is great, but in theory does will not work.

Regardless what you say, the Green Party is left wing. I don't care, as in a democracy everyone has the right to chose. Also if they were to get in it won't affect me.