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Posted January 30, 2014 07:04 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:28

martinb wrote:
Buffon II wrote:

You could say that about half our batsmen though.


actually not these days.

Look at how Guppy got out against Holder. That's why he should never be in consideration as a test opener again for mine. We've had so much success with this opening partnership giving us some moderate starts and occasional scores from one and two. I think if Guppy is going anywhere it has to be in the middle order. Which is a bit of a battle- Macca, Ryder, Guptill and Anderson all really trying to get in on those 5 and 6 spots. I think Rutherford and Fulton have earned the right to be incumbents. Fulton will retire in the next little while- he's too old to be going for ever and Rutherford has to convert. Too often he throws his wicket away in a good batting situation. But if we are going to have stroke makers scoring effectively we need openers to cover for them and have tired the bowlers out a bit when they get to the wicket.


Guptill had a decent run at number five back in 2010, got some runs, then failed when put in the middle order later, so I'm not sure whether that means it's worth investigating, or whether it means he's just a streaky batsman regardless of his position. But as you say, it's hard to fight your way into the middle order, so it's likely a moot argument.

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martinb wrote:
Buffon II wrote:

You could say that about half our batsmen though.


actually not these days.

Look at how Guppy got out against Holder. That's why he should never be in consideration as a test opener again for mine. We've had so much success with this opening partnership giving us some moderate starts and occasional scores from one and two. I think if Guppy is going anywhere it has to be in the middle order. Which is a bit of a battle- Macca, Ryder, Guptill and Anderson all really trying to get in on those 5 and 6 spots. I think Rutherford and Fulton have earned the right to be incumbents. Fulton will retire in the next little while- he's too old to be going for ever and Rutherford has to convert. Too often he throws his wicket away in a good batting situation. But if we are going to have stroke makers scoring effectively we need openers to cover for them and have tired the bowlers out a bit when they get to the wicket.


Guptill had a decent run at number five back in 2010, got some runs, then failed when put in the middle order later, so I'm not sure whether that means it's worth investigating, or whether it means he's just a streaky batsman regardless of his position. But as you say, it's hard to fight your way into the middle order, so it's likely a moot argument.