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Posted May 21, 2014 19:31 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:29

bopman wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:

I think this article sums it up for me. 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/may/20/the-spin-cricket-fixing-allegations



Now any game that's an upset or has an error that changes the outcome is suspicious. Every interesting game of cricket is now ruined.

Again though, that seems to be blurring the line between spot and match fixing. As far as I can tell, no one has accused Cairns or Vincent of match fixing. Only spot fixing.

But the point is the difference between spotfixing and matchfixing is only a matter of scale, and if either one is occurring the integrity of the game is compromised. Also, say that the spotfix was that the first over was a maiden (which I think I remember reading was the case at least once with Vincent in the ICL) - in a limited overs match that could be the difference to the result of the game, not just in rums lost but in momentum. However, the bigger issue seems to be that if players will spotfix for a certain amount of money then why not fix the whole match for more? Regardless of how often that has happened though, why trust someone who's already admitted doing a lesser crime. It's like saying, yeah my uncle is a rapist but he wouldn't murder someone. Even if that's true, its hard to tell yourself that when you see something that suggests otherwise right in front of you.

 

At least doping cheats are trying to win.

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bopman wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:

I think this article sums it up for me. 

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/may/20/the-spin-cricket-fixing-allegations



Now any game that's an upset or has an error that changes the outcome is suspicious. Every interesting game of cricket is now ruined.

Again though, that seems to be blurring the line between spot and match fixing. As far as I can tell, no one has accused Cairns or Vincent of match fixing. Only spot fixing.

But the point is the difference between spotfixing and matchfixing is only a matter of scale, and if either one is occurring the integrity of the game is compromised. Also, say that the spotfix was that the first over was a maiden (which I think I remember reading was the case at least once with Vincent in the ICL) - in a limited overs match that could be the difference to the result of the game, not just in rums lost but in momentum. However, the bigger issue seems to be that if players will spotfix for a certain amount of money then why not fix the whole match for more? Regardless of how often that has happened though, why trust someone who's already admitted doing a lesser crime. It's like saying, yeah my uncle is a rapist but he wouldn't murder someone. Even if that's true, its hard to tell yourself that when you see something that suggests otherwise right in front of you.

At least doping cheats are trying to win.