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Posted June 05, 2015 08:00 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:29

aitkenmike wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

The difference is, you are talking about historical patterns in cricket losing their relevance in the face of the modern game and the change in which its played, not historical patterns in football.

But as you said, England had 2 days to score the 450 (if it wasn't for the rain).  Teams have been in that position before, where the speed of the game and run rate has been irrelevant, but it still hasn't been done.  I'm not saying it is impossible, just VERY unlikely.  Chasing any sort of score on a 4th/5th day pitch is an incredibly difficult challenge, irrespective of the run rate required.

Which is the point I am making. In the past, historically, that is a scenario you just write off. Now, anything is possible - 5 runs an over to a test match, 2 double hundreds in an ODI tournament. We are seeing the game change before our eyes so all scenarios can not be written off. Ok, its only happened 4 times in the last 100 or so years. What would you say if it happened 4 times in the next 4 years? How many double hundred have we seen in ODIs? We just saw 2 in the space of a month........

The point I was making is that some of these things are not as far fetched as they used to be.

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aitkenmike wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

The difference is, you are talking about historical patterns in cricket losing their relevance in the face of the modern game and the change in which its played, not historical patterns in football.

But as you said, England had 2 days to score the 450 (if it wasn't for the rain).  Teams have been in that position before, where the speed of the game and run rate has been irrelevant, but it still hasn't been done.  I'm not saying it is impossible, just VERY unlikely.  Chasing any sort of score on a 4th/5th day pitch is an incredibly difficult challenge, irrespective of the run rate required.

Which is the point I am making. In the past, historically, that is a scenario you just write off. Now, anything is possible - 5 runs an over to a test match, 2 double hundreds in an ODI tournament. We are seeing the game change before our eyes so all scenarios can not be written off. Ok, its only happened 4 times in the last 100 or so years. What would you say if it happened 4 times in the next 4 years? How many double hundred have we seen in ODIs? We just saw 2 in the space of a month........

The point I was making is that some of these things are not as far fetched as they used to be.