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Posted September 10, 2015 04:15 · last edited September 10, 2015 04:16

Jeff Vader wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

[quote=Ryan]

I'm not saying it would win, I'm just saying that it has enough support to warrant figuring out a way to include it. We don't need two variations of the same (IMHO dreadful) design, and hypno flag has negligible support.

The nations opinion is that this is a farce and to keep the current flag. At least there is some interest and debate now.

Incorrect. A small minority subset are trying to convince everyone that the nation hate the designs and keep the current design. Once the democratic process bears out and the current flag is kept, then you can make that claim. 35k out of 5m is not even 1% of the population so like you, me and everyone else, you have 1 opinion and 1 vote. If you are that outraged, make your vote count.

...Its just a flag and those people spouting the Key conspiracy and Red Peak brigade are making it more of a deal than it actually is.

Why is your opinion on the process and the reasons behind it correct and anyone who thinks the opposite so so wrong? At the very least, I'm open to the idea that this may all be legitimately just about a flag and national identity (and no, I don't buy into the flag change giving John Key and National super powers) but if it looks like a rat, runs like a rat and squeaks like a rat... Are you not open the idea, however ridiculous you think it may be, that this is all smoke and mirrors?

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LeighboNZ edited September 10, 2015 04:16
Jeff Vader wrote:
Ryan wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

[quote=Ryan]

I'm not saying it would win, I'm just saying that it has enough support to warrant figuring out a way to include it. We don't need two variations of the same (IMHO dreadful) design, and hypno flag has negligible support.

The nations opinion is that this is a farce and to keep the current flag. At least there is some interest and debate now.

Incorrect. A small minority subset are trying to convince everyone that the nation hate the designs and keep the current design. Once the democratic process bears out and the current flag is kept, then you can make that claim. 35k out of 5m is not even 1% of the population so like you, me and everyone else, you have 1 opinion and 1 vote. If you are that outraged, make your vote count.

...Its just a flag and those people spouting the Key conspiracy and Red Peak brigade are making it more of a deal than it actually is.

Why is your opinion on the process and the reasons behind it correct and anyone who thinks the opposite so so wrong? At the very least, I'm open to the idea that this may all be legitimately just about a flag and national identity (and no, I don't buy into the flag change giving John Key and National super powers) but if it looks like a rat, runs like a rat and squeaks like a rat... Are you not open the idea that this is all smoke and mirrors?