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Posted September 10, 2015 02:56 · last edited September 10, 2015 03:07

Jeff Vader wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I'm not saying it would win, I'm just saying that it has enough support to warrant figuring out a way to include it. We don't need two variations of the same (IMHO dreadful) design, and hypno flag has negligible support.

The nations opinion is that this is a farce and to keep the current flag. At least there is some interest and debate now.

Incorrect. A small minority subset are trying to convince everyone that the nation hate the designs and keep the current design. Once the democratic process bears out and the current flag is kept, then you can make that claim. 35k out of 5m is not even 1% of the population so like you, me and everyone else, you have 1 opinion and 1 vote. If you are that outraged, make your vote count.

Every opinion poll that I have seen shows that the majority of New Zealanders would vote to keep the current flag, so how is that a small minority?

35k is a small amount, but it was gotten within a week. They require 350k to take it to referendum.

I'm not really fussed, I'll probably abstain from the first vote and vote to keep the current flag in the second, I just don't understand why you're so pissed off about people stating their opinion?

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Ryan edited September 10, 2015 03:07
Jeff Vader wrote:
Ryan wrote:

I'm not saying it would win, I'm just saying that it has enough support to warrant figuring out a way to include it. We don't need two variations of the same (IMHO dreadful) design, and hypno flag has negligible support.

The nations opinion is that this is a farce and to keep the current flag. At least there is some interest and debate now.

Incorrect. A small minority subset are trying to convince everyone that the nation hate the designs and keep the current design. Once the democratic process bears out and the current flag is kept, then you can make that claim. 35k out of 5m is not even 1% of the population so like you, me and everyone else, you have 1 opinion and 1 vote. If you are that outraged, make your vote count.

Every opinion poll that I have seen shows that the majority of New Zealanders would vote to keep the current flag, so how is that a small majority?

35k is a small amount, but it was gotten within a week. They require 350k to take it to referendum.

I'm not really fussed, I'll probably abstain from the first vote and vote to keep the current flag in the second, I just don't understand why you're so pissed off about people stating their opinion?