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Posted November 07, 2024 11:38 · last edited November 07, 2024 11:47

martinb
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Research shows the keep positive message undercuts the urgent action message. 😧

But hey I’m quitting unless the Pacific Islands invade the US or some such! Though I guess there’s a difference between quitting green projects and getting all the fossil fuels you can and burning them to stick it to the libtards like our excuse for leaders are doing. 

In Japan coal is quietly expanding, but I understand that because they’ve had such a terrible experience with nuclear power. I believe they’re trying to bring some nuclear power back online and I’ve met several people in the solar industry which is amazing considering how often I get off here and meet people. But I feel if they wanted to crank it up more they could. But it’s clear there’s a lot of private sector involvement in solutions. This is a country that already gets plenty of storms and natural disasters and doesn’t need any more. 

But hey I’m still dead keen for Generic FC Auckland v Wellington Phoenix 2050 Lava Bowl! Ice vests. Water breaks. Stadium rooves. Hoping Bill left us some dosh and didn’t destroy our health system. Or the Aucks are run by the Northland Coffee and Weed Export company. If I make it that far…

When I say trying to keep positive, I hope that with international support, US climate groups and activists will act with urgency to pile on as much misery for Trump and his administration. I'd like to see plans being developed now before he returns to office, which Greenpeace have mentioned in their response they intend to do in the coming weeks.

Same sort of language for the upcoming International Court of Justice case, hope that something meaningful will come out of it and governments like ours will face much tougher consequences for their lack of action going forward.

I meanwhile, like many others, will continue doing whatever I can personally to make a difference.

‘Much tougher consequences going forward ‘ is probably too late to prevent the feedback loops right? 

We need combined international action now, not the possibility of Shane Jones and Simeon Brown facing up to some consequences that the US (and Russia, China…perhaps India and Brazil too depending how things are going) won’t be party to, in 2 or 3 years… 

and considering the current government policy seems to be to just ignore any international sanctions, it then saddles any future alternative government with massive problems, unless we make the deniers personally liable. Which is highly unlikely and opens more cans of worms. 

In relation to tipping points or feedback loops, it is a very controversial proposed solution and you've likely heard about it, but scientists are looking at ways to try and refreeze Arctic ice. There's some research currently being conducted at Cambridge University.
https://www.climaterepair.cam.ac.uk/refreeze

I have seen articles recently where first tests by UK group Real Ice, who are affiliated with Cambridge, have shown promise. However, it is early days, yet to be proven at a much larger scale and will obviously not be the solution all together, acting only as a bandage. There is also concern about the impact it could have on nearby wildlife. It could though give us more time than we currently do have to prevent further catastrophe, just hope the idea does not give governments the assumption that everything will work out fine and they do not need to show any real urgency.

There of course is the other tipping points like the Amazon, which thanks to Trump's South American mate Bolsonaro, is dangerously close to becoming inefficient in absorbing carbon. Lula has been doing a significantly better job though trying to reign in deforestation, despite his government backing a few profit over nature projects in the rainforest since his return to office. Also the fires still taking place because of massive drought and the decreasing but still present number of loggers won't be making things any easier for Lula.

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martinb
Wusty Wab
martinb
Research shows the keep positive message undercuts the urgent action message. 😧

But hey I’m quitting unless the Pacific Islands invade the US or some such! Though I guess there’s a difference between quitting green projects and getting all the fossil fuels you can and burning them to stick it to the libtards like our excuse for leaders are doing. 

In Japan coal is quietly expanding, but I understand that because they’ve had such a terrible experience with nuclear power. I believe they’re trying to bring some nuclear power back online and I’ve met several people in the solar industry which is amazing considering how often I get off here and meet people. But I feel if they wanted to crank it up more they could. But it’s clear there’s a lot of private sector involvement in solutions. This is a country that already gets plenty of storms and natural disasters and doesn’t need any more. 

But hey I’m still dead keen for Generic FC Auckland v Wellington Phoenix 2050 Lava Bowl! Ice vests. Water breaks. Stadium rooves. Hoping Bill left us some dosh and didn’t destroy our health system. Or the Aucks are run by the Northland Coffee and Weed Export company. If I make it that far…

When I say trying to keep positive, I hope that with international support, US climate groups and activists will act with urgency to pile on as much misery for Trump and his administration. I'd like to see plans being developed now before he returns to office, which Greenpeace have mentioned in their response they intend to do in the coming weeks.

Same sort of language for the upcoming International Court of Justice case, hope that something meaningful will come out of it and governments like ours will face much tougher consequences for their lack of action going forward.

I meanwhile, like many others, will continue doing whatever I can personally to make a difference.

‘Much tougher consequences going forward ‘ is probably too late to prevent the feedback loops right? 

We need combined international action now, not the possibility of Shane Jones and Simeon Brown facing up to some consequences that the US (and Russia, China…perhaps India and Brazil too depending how things are going) won’t be party to, in 2 or 3 years… 

and considering the current government policy seems to be to just ignore any international sanctions, it then saddles any future alternative government with massive problems, unless we make the deniers personally liable. Which is highly unlikely and opens more cans of worms. 

In relation to tipping points or feedback loops, it is a very controversial proposed solution and you've likely heard about it, but scientists are looking at ways to try and refreeze Arctic ice. There's some research currently being conducted at Cambridge University.
https://www.climaterepair.cam.ac.uk/refreeze

I've seen articles recently where first tests by UK group Real Ice, who are affiliated with Cambridge, have shown promise. However, it is early days, yet to be proven at a much larger scale and will obviously not be the solution all together, acting only as a bandage. There's also concern about the impact it could have on nearby wildlife. It could though give us more time than we currently do have to prevent further catastrophe.

There of course is the other tipping points like the Amazon, which thanks to Trump's South American mate Bolsonaro, is dangerously close to becoming inefficient in absorbing carbon. Lula has been doing a significantly better job though trying to reign in deforestation, despite his government backing a few profit over nature projects in the rainforest since his return to office. Also the fires still taking place because of massive drought and the decreasing but still present number of loggers won't be making things any easier for Lula.