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Posted September 19, 2025 04:14 · last edited September 24, 2025 02:37

Yes but a significant of the immigrants looking to enter Europe from West Africa especially are clearly 'economic refugees'. In 2023, 55% of immigrants to the EU were men, many young without any children or dependents.

Been plenty of documentaries tracing young guys leaving a poverty stricken West African village on the hazardous journey to Europe, to find a better life. They are not genuine asylum seekers.

Not only from North Africa across the Med to Italy/Spain, but to the Canary Islands in the Atlantic from Senegal and Mauritania.

Should a 19 yr old poverty stricken guy from Ghana just be allowed to cross the English Channel by raft after paying some scum bag trafficker $5K? All the while whilst a Yazidi widow who was a sex slave of ISIS, waits 5 years in a Syrian refugee camp with her kids before she gets a legimate visa to live in the UK. Western Europe can't take in every unfortunate. There are tradeoffs if you let in those who queue jump.

More than 180,000 people have arrived by small boats into the UK since figures were first recorded in 2018. It ain't an insignificant number. Chuck in those who hide in lorries or even the Eurostar. And this is why Les Smith a roofer from Warrington gets a bit worked up, and becames a Reform UK voter. Les's family are not descendents of Cecil Rhodes or the East India Company owners. Colonialism didn't really add alot of wealth to the Smith family balance sheet. He's a white CIS male, but still not a lot of guilt there.


Again it would be interesting how NZ society would handle a similar large influx of immigrants (a disproportionate amount as young men). It would be naive to think it would all be warm welcomes and hugs. Though might end the 'man drought' calls!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360833428/british-judge-sentences-asylum-seeker-12-months-case-triggered-anti-migrant-protests

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Unknown editor edited September 24, 2025 02:37
Yes but a significant of the immigrants looking to enter Europe from West Africa especially are clearly 'economic refugees'. In 2023, 55% of immigrants to the EU were men, many young without any children or dependents.

Been plenty of documentaries tracing young guys leaving a poverty stricken West African village on the hazardous journey to Europe, to find a better life. They are not genuine asylum seekers.

Not only from North Africa across the Med to Italy/Spain, but to the Canary Islands in the Atlantic from Senegal and Mauritania.

Should a 19 yr old pverty stricken guy from Ghana just be allowed to cross the English Channel by raft after paying some scum bag trafficker $5K? All the while whilst a Yazidi widow who was a sex slave of ISIS, waits 5 years in a Syrian refugee camp with her kids before she gets a legimate visa to live in the UK. Western Europe can't take in every unfortunate. There are tradeoffs if you let in those who queue jump.

More than 180,000 people have arrived by small boats into the UK since figures were first recorded in 2018. It ain't an insignificant number. Chuck in those who hide in lorries or even the Eurostar. And this is why Les Smith a roofer from Warrington gets a bit worked up, and becames a Reform UK voter. Les's family are not descendents of Cecil Rhodes or the East India Company owners. Colonialism didn't really add alot of wealth to the Smith family balance sheet. He's a white CIS male, but still not a lot of guilt there.


Again it would be interesting how NZ society would handle a similar large influx of immigrants (a disproportionate amount as young men). It would be naive to think it would all be warm welcomes and hugs. Though might end the 'man drought' calls!
Unknown editor edited September 19, 2025 07:24
Yes but a significant of the immigrants looking to enter Europe from West Africa especially are clearly 'economic refugees'. In 2023, 55% of immigrants to the EU were men, many young without any children or dependents.

Been plenty of documentaries tracing young guys leaving a poverty stricken West African village on the hazardous journey to Europe, to find a better life. They are not genuine asylum seekers.

Not only from North Africa across the Med to Italy/Spain, but to the Canary Islands in the Atlantic from Senegal and Mauritania.

Should a 19 yr old pverty stricken guy from Ghana just be allowed to cross the English Channel by raft after paying some scum bag trafficker $5K? All the while whilst a Yazidi widow who was a sex slave of ISIS, waits 5 years in a Syrian refugee camp with her kids before she gets a legimate visa to live in the UK. Western Europe can't take in every unfortunate. There are tradeoffs if you let in those who queue jump.

More than 180,000 people have arrived by small boats into the UK since figures were first recorded in 2018. It ain't an insignificant number. Chuck in those who hide in lorries or even the Eurostar. And this is why Les Smith a roofer from Warrington gets a bit worked up, and becames a Reform UK voter. Les's family are not descendents of Cecil Rhodes or the East India Company owners. Colonialism didn't really add alot of wealth to the Smith family balance sheet. He's a white CIS male, but still not a lot of guilt there.


Again it would be interesting how NZ society would handle a similar large influx of immigrants (a disproportionate amount as young men). It would be naive to think it would all be warm welcomes and hugs. Might end the 'man drought' calls!
Unknown editor edited September 19, 2025 06:33
Yes but a significant of the immigrants looking to enter Europe from West Africa especially are clearly 'economic refugees'. In 2023, 55% of immigrants to the EU were men, many young without any children or dependents.

Been plenty of documentaries tracing young guys leaving a poverty stricken West African village on the hazardous journey to Europe, to find a better life. They are not genuine asylum seekers.

Not only from North Africa across the Med to Italy/Spain, but to the Canary Islands in the Atlantic from Senegal and Mauritania.

Should a 19 yr old pverty stricken guy from Ghana just be allowed to cross the English Channel by raft after paying some scum bag trafficker $5K? All the while whilst a Yazidi widow who was a sex slave of ISIS, waits 5 years in a Syrian refugee camp with her kids before she gets a legimate visa to live in the UK. Western Europe can't take in every unfortunate. There are tradeoffs if you let in those who queue jump.

More than 180,000 people have arrived by small boats into the UK since figures were first recorded in 2018. It ain't an insignificant number. Chuck in those who hide in lorries or even the Eurostar. And this is why Les Smith a roofer from Warrington gets a bit worked up, and becames a Reform UK voter. Les's family are not descendents of Cecil Rhodes or the East India Company owners. Colonialism didn't really add alot of wealth to the Smith family balance sheet. Not a lot of guilt there.


Again it would be interesting how NZ society would handle a similar large influx of immigrants (a disproportionate amount as young men). It would be naive to think it would all be warm welcomes and hugs. Might end the 'man drought' calls!
Unknown editor edited September 19, 2025 06:33
Yes but a significant of the immigrants looking to enter Europe from West Africa especially are clearly 'economic refugees'. In 2023, 55% of immigrants to the EU were men, many young without any children or dependents.

Been plenty of documentaries tracing young guys leaving a poverty stricken West African village on the hazardous journey to Europe, to find a better life. They are not genuine asylum seekers.

Not only from North Africa across the Med to Italy/Spain, but to the Canary Islands in the Atlantic from Senegal and Mauritania.

Should a 19 yr old pverty stricken guy from Ghana just be allowed to cross the English Channel by raft after paying some scum bag trafficker $5K? All the while whilst a Yazidi widow who was a sex slave of ISIS, waits 5 years in a Syrian refugee camp with her kids before she gets a legimate visa to live in the UK. Western Europe can't take in every unfortunate. There are tradeoffs if you let in those who queue jump.

More than 180,000 people have arrived by small boats into the UK since figures were first recorded in 2018. It ain't an insignificant number. Chuck in those who hide in lorries or even the Eurostar. And this is why Les Smith a roofer from Warrington gets a bit worked up, and becames a Reform UK voter. Les's family are not descendents of Cecil Rhodes or the East India Company owners. Coloniasm didn't really add alot of wealth to the Smith family balance sheet. Not a lot of guilt there.


Again it would be interesting how NZ society would handle a similar large influx of immigrants (a disproportionate amount as young men). It would be naive to think it would all be warm welcomes and hugs. Might end the 'man drought' calls!
Unknown editor edited September 19, 2025 06:29
Yes but a significant of the immigrants looking to enter Europe from West Africa especially are clearly 'economic refugees'. In 2023, 55% of immigrants to the EU were men, many young without any children or dependents.

Been plenty of documentaries tracing young guys leaving a poverty stricken West African village on the hazardous journey to Europe, to find a better life. They are not genuine asylum seekers.

Not only from North Africa across the Med to Italy/Spain, but to the Canary Islands in the Atlantic from Senegal and Mauritania.

Should a 19 yr old pverty stricken guy from Ghana just be allowed to cross the English Channel by raft after paying some scum bag trafficker $5K? All the while whilst a Yazidi widow who was a sex slave of ISIS, waits 5 years in a Syrian refugee camp with her kids before she gets a legimate visa to live in the UK. Western Europe can't take in every unfortunate. There are tradeoffs if you let in those who queue jump.

More than 180,000 people have arrived by small boats into the UK since figures were first recorded in 2018. It ain't an insiugnificant number. Chuck in those who hide in lorries or even the Eurostar. And this is why Les Smith the roofer in Warrington gets a bit worked up, and becames a Reform UK voter. Les's family are not descendents of Cecil Rhodes or the East India Company owners. Coloniasm didn't really add alot of wealth to the Smith family balance sheet. Not a lot of guilt there.


Again it would be interesting how NZ society would handle a similar large influx of immigrants (a disproportionate amount as young men). It would be naive to think it would all be warm welcomes and hugs. Might end the 'man drought' calls!
Unknown editor edited September 19, 2025 06:28
Yes but a significant of the immigrants looking to enter Europe from West Africa especially are clearly 'economic refugees'. In 2023, 55% of immigrants to the EU were men, many young without any children or dependents.

Been plenty of documentaries tracing young guys leaving a poverty stricken West African village on the hazardous journey to Europe, to find a better life. They are not genuine asylum seekers.

Not only from North Africa across the Med to Italy/Spain, but to the Canary Islands in the Atlantic from Senegal and Mauritania.

Should a 19 yr old pverty stricken guy from Ghana just be allowed to cross the English Channel by raft after paying some scum bag trafficker $5K? All the while whilst a Yazidi widow who was a sex slave of ISIS, waits 5 years in a Syrian refugee camp with her kids before she gets a legimate visa to live in the UK. Western Europe can't take in every unfortunate. There are tradeoffs if you let in those who queue jump.


Again it would be interesting how NZ society would handle a similar large influx of immigrants (a disproportionate amount as young men). It would be naive to think it would all be warm welcomes and hugs. Might end the 'man drought' calls!
Unknown editor edited September 19, 2025 06:18
Yes but a significant of the immigrants looking to enter Europe from West Africa especially are clearly 'economic refugees'. In 2023, 55% of immigrants to the EU were men, many young without any children or dependents.

Been plenty of documentaries tracing young guys leaving a poverty stricken West African village on the hazardous journey to Europe, to find a better life. They are not genuine asylum seekers.

Not only from North Africa across the Med to Italy/Spain, but to the Canary Islands in the Atlantic from Senegal and Mauritania.


Again it would be interesting how NZ society would handle a similar large influx of immigrants (a disproportionate amount as young men). It would be naive to think it would all be warm welcomes and hugs. Might end the 'man drought' calls!
Unknown editor edited September 19, 2025 04:21
Yes but a significant of the immigrants looking to enter Europe from West Africa especially are clearly 'economic refugees'. In 2023, 55% of immigrants to the EU were men, many young without any children or dependents.

Been plenty of documentaries tracing young guys leaving a poverty stricken West African village on the hazardous journey to Europe, to find a better life. They are not genuine asylum seekers.

Not only from North Africa across the Med to Italy/Spain, but to the Canary Islands in the Atlantic from Senegal and Mauritania.
Unknown editor edited September 19, 2025 04:15
Yes but a significant of the immigrants looking to enter Europe from West Africa especially are clearly 'economic refugees'. In 2023, 55% of immigrants to the EU were men, many young without children.

Been plenty of documentaries tracing young guys leaving a poverty stricken West African village on the hazardous journey to Europe, to find a better life. They are not genuine aslyum seekers.

Not only from North Africa across the Med to Italy/Spain, but to the Canary Islands in the Atlantic from Senegal and Mauritania.