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Posted September 16, 2024 02:13 · last edited September 16, 2024 05:30

To Ballane. There is definitely a link between crime and employment - with small businesses anyway. 



Not major businesses closing here due to crime - but they all employ staff, pay tax, and put cash into the economy.

Look there are for sure some dodgy burbs in Australia, with high crime. Broadmeadows in Melbs, pockets of Western Sydney, parts of Logan (Outer Brissy). These sharkter holes all have one thing in common, they are in the Western burbs away from the coast. My advice just don't live there. They ain't nice.

Aussie is a big place, with a massive coastline. There are plenty of smaller cities and towns near the coast with low crime, where housing (renting or ownership) won't cost you a kidney or two. Maybe it's just harder to avoid being a crime victim at some point in NZ, because it's just a small place. It's a short hop from Linwood to leafy Cashmere for those intent on a car thief. In about 15 years total of living in Oztraylia, my sole incident is someone breaking into the street parked old HQ Holden in Collingwood, Melbs (you could open it with a well placed kitchen knife), reclining the front seat for a nice sleep and emptying the parking meter coins. It was July, so I'm guessing a homeless soul looking for a warm bed!


I live on the Sunshine Coast. Interesting reading Rock Hopper above. I was talking to a Brazilian Kiwi here about a month ago. Our kids in the same playground, his boy wearing a Gremio top. Dad & Mum had moved to NZ from Brazil about 20 years prior, lived in Cromwell and other parts before settling in Gizzy for about 10 years. Kids were born in the Poverty Bay.

He said the crime just got to them eventually, and they moved here about a year ago. He's a concreter. Plenty of work. The sun is out most days, so that means concrete gets laid most days. He can park his truck pretty much everywhere without fear of it being broken into.

Look without being traitorous towards NZ, I'd recommend that anyone who was really struggling financially in Aotearoa to look at Oz.  It doesn't have to be forever, but yeah if life is struggle in NZ why not.

We are blessed where we live on the Sunshine Coast. Not the most exciting or culturally diverse place granted (Rangiora by the Beach), but when you are raising young kids as older parents you want it slow paced and just easy. The rug rats are exhausting enough as it is, so who wants to be fudgeing stuck in traffic for hours a day, in a big city. That's a shark outcome in my book.

We have a great local community,with the school, beach, hall/library, shopping mall and local parks centre pieces. Good quality free state run schools. It's a bit like the local rural community where I grew up in the Rapa. Just more jandals than gumboots. Give your kids your time, plus some water and they are happy.

Like NZ the biggest issue is finding somewhere to live, especially when you first arrive. But once you get over that tough hurdle, life is pretty damn good. Plenty of work around. And course if you are fortunate enough to be able to create an income from a home office, it has all you need. Brisbane an hour down the road if you need to see a museum or some other big city caper.

Oh and on the work front, the aged care/disability work space is massive here. This is a newly wed, nearly dead demographic. A Tauranga/Mt Maunganui.

The National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) has exploded here the last 10 years or so. All sorts of employers looking for NDIS workers. You don't need to be a nurse or anything. Though there are some qualifications that are useful to get. A salaried NDIS carer will get $27-37/hour. Plus super (Kiwi Saver), annual, sick leave etc. A privately contracted NDIS carer can get $45-55/hr. You just need an Australian Business Number (ABN). Obviously no annual leave, or sick leave with that. But with the mild winters it's rare to get the flu here for long.

There is a male carer who looks after a tetraplegic guy, who parks up the wheelchair in the shade outside our local library every week day. The carer guy told me the above $ figures. He said it's the most rewarding job he's ever had. He still works part time as a gym PT, but he could work 7 days per week if he wanted as a carer. The NDIS agencies are always looking for carers. The tetraplegic guy is low intensity, and the carer guy mostly just sits there reading a book. Sometimes I see him with his hand on the tetraplegic guy's shoulder, just letting him know he's there.

In our apartment block (purpose built for NDIS patients with wide lifts & hallways etc for wheelchairs) is another carer who spends alot of time outside walking her client's dog, then sitting in the local cafe outside for a coffee with said dog! Tough life.

Of course you get more high intensity clients with mental health issues etc. My cousin's son Luke is another carer, and he got given a young angry guy who a paralysed after a skateboard fall. Luke introduced the guy to wheelchair rugby and apparently that's helped massively with the anger he felt about his accident.

Anyway thought this maybe of some small value to anyone considering a move to Aus, and struggling to figure out what to do if they ever did.

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Unknown editor edited September 16, 2024 05:30
To Ballane. There is definitely a link between crime and employment - with small businesses anyway. 



Not major businesses closing here due to crime - but they all employ staff, pay tax, and put cash into the economy.

Look there are for sure some dodgy burbs in Australia, with high crime. Broadmeadows in Melbs, pockets of Western Sydney, parts of Logan (Outer Brissy). These sharkter holes all have one thing in common, they are in the Western burbs away from the coast. My advice just don't live there. They ain't nice.

Aussie is a big place, with a massive coastline. There are plenty of smaller cities and towns near the coast with low crime, where housing (renting or ownership) won't cost you a kidney or two. Maybe it's just harder to avoid being a crime victim at some point in NZ, because it's just a small place. It's a short hop from Linwood to leafy Cashmere for those intent on a car thief. In about 15 years total of living in Oztraylia, my sole incident is someone breaking into the street parked old HQ Holden in Collingwood, Melbs (you could open it with a well placed kitchen knife), reclining the front seat for a nice sleep and emptying the parking meter coins. It was July, so I'm guessing a homeless soul looking for a warm bed!


I live on the Sunshine Coast. Interesting reading Rock Hopper above. I was talking to a Brazilian Kiwi here about a month ago. Our kids in the same playground, his boy wearing a Gremio top. Dad & Mum had moved to NZ from Brazil about 20 years prior, lived in Cromwell and other parts before settling in Gizzy for about 10 years. Kids were born in the Poverty Bay.

He said the crime just got to them eventually, and they moved here about a year ago. He's a concreter. Plenty of work. The sun is out most days, so that means concrete gets laid most days. He can park his truck pretty much everywhere without fear of it being broken into.

Look without being traitorous towards NZ, I'd recommend that anyone who was really struggling financially in Aotearoa to look at Oz.  It doesn't have to be forever, but yeah if life is struggle in NZ why not.

We are blessed where we live on the Sunshine Coast. Not the most exciting or culturally diverse place granted (Rangiora by the Beach), but when you are raising young kids as older parents you want it slow paced and just easy. The rug rats are exhausting enough as it is, so who wants to be fudgeing stuck in traffic for hours a day, in a big city. That's a shark outcome in my book.

We have a great local community,with the school, beach, hall/library, shopping mall and local parks centre pieces. Good quality free state run schools. It's a bit like the local rural community where I grew up in the Rapa. Just more jandals than gumboots. Give your kids your time, plus some water and they are happy.

Like NZ the biggest issue is finding somewhere to live, especially when you first arrive. But once you get over that tough hurdle, life is pretty damn good. Plenty of work around. And course if you are fortunate enough to be able to create an income from a home office, it has all you need. Brisbane an hour down the road if you need to see a museum or some other big city caper.

Oh and on the work front, the aged care/disability work space is massive here. This is a newly wed, nearly dead demographic. A Tauranga/Mt Maunganui.

The National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) has exploded here the last 10 years or so. All sorts of employers looking for NDIS workers. You don't need to be a nurse or anything. Though there are some qualifications that are useful to get. A salaried NDIS carer will get $27-37/hour. Plus super (Kiwi Saver), annual, sick leave etc. A privately contracted NDIS carer can get $45-55/hr. You just need an Australian Business Number (ABN). Obviously no annual leave, or sick leave with that. But with the mild winters it's rare to get the flu here for long.

There is a male carer who looks after a tetraplegic guy, who parks up the wheelchair in the shade outside our local library every week day. The carer guy told me the above $ figures. He said it's the most rewarding job he's ever had. He still works part time as a gym PT, but he could work 7 days per week if he wanted as a carer. The NDIS agencies are always looking for carers. The tetraplegic guy is low intensity, and the carer guy mostly just sits there reading a book. Sometimes I see him with his hand on the tetraplegic guy's shoulder, just letting him know he's there.

In our apartment block (purpose built for NDIS patients with wide lifts & hallways etc for wheelchairs) is another carer who spends alot of time outside walking her client's dog, then sitting in the local cafe outside for a coffee with said dog! Tough life. 

Of course you get more high intensity clients with mental health issues etc. My cousin's son Luke is another carer, and he got given a young angry guy who a paralysed after a skateboard fall. Luke introduced the guy to wheelchair rugby and apparently that's helped massively with the anger he felt about his accident.

Anyway thought this maybe of some small value to anyone considering a move to Aus, and struggling to figure out what to do if they ever did.


Edit - agree with MartinB & Gareth Morgan, NZ would be better if less was invested in property and more in shares or buinesses aka the USA model.

If I was in Govt I'd somehow incentivise that (don't ask me how), bring in a capital gains tax like Aus has (even though that would likely hit me personally), and also means test the pension. If you have say $2M in net assets outside the family home, nothing or at least a reduced pension. 

Taking away the ability to deduct interest on rental properties was dumb legislation. It was just meaning rents going up even faster. Landlords & renters both hit. 

Lloyd Morrison had some great ideas. A sad loss on many fronts.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/illoyd-morrisoni-time-to-reclaim-status-as-gods-own/GINM7MPCSBGDBJB5GRJJQ7SIQI/
Unknown editor edited September 16, 2024 05:27
To Ballane. There is definitely a link between crime and employment - with small businesses anyway. 



Not major businesses closing here due to crime - but they all employ staff, pay tax, and put cash into the economy.

Look there are for sure some dodgy burbs in Australia, with high crime. Broadmeadows in Melbs, pockets of Western Sydney, parts of Logan (Outer Brissy). These sharkter holes all have one thing in common, they are in the Western burbs away from the coast. My advice just don't live there. They ain't nice.

Aussie is a big place, with a massive coastline. There are plenty of smaller cities and towns near the coast with low crime, where housing (renting or ownership) won't cost you a kidney or two. Maybe it's just harder to avoid being a crime victim at some point in NZ, because it's just a small place. It's a short hop from Linwood to leafy Cashmere for those intent on a car thief. In about 15 years total of living in Oztraylia, my sole incident is someone breaking into the street parked old HQ Holden in Collingwood, Melbs (you could open it with a well placed kitchen knife), reclining the front seat for a nice sleep and emptying the parking meter coins. It was July, so I'm guessing a homeless soul looking for a warm bed!


I live on the Sunshine Coast. Interesting reading Rock Hopper above. I was talking to a Brazilian Kiwi here about a month ago. Our kids in the same playground, his boy wearing a Gremio top. Dad & Mum had moved to NZ from Brazil about 20 years prior, lived in Cromwell and other parts before settling in Gizzy for about 10 years. Kids were born in the Poverty Bay.

He said the crime just got to them eventually, and they moved here about a year ago. He's a concreter. Plenty of work. The sun is out most days, so that means concrete gets laid most days. He can park his truck pretty much everywhere without fear of it being broken into.

Look without being traitorous towards NZ, I'd recommend that anyone who was really struggling financially in Aotearoa to look at Oz.  It doesn't have to be forever, but yeah if life is struggle in NZ why not.

We are blessed where we live on the Sunshine Coast. Not the most exciting or culturally diverse place granted (Rangiora by the Beach), but when you are raising young kids as older parents you want it slow paced and just easy. The rug rats are exhausting enough as it is, so who wants to be fudgeing stuck in traffic for hours a day, in a big city. That's a shark outcome in my book.

We have a great local community,with the school, beach, hall/library, shopping mall and local parks centre pieces. Good quality free state run schools. It's a bit like the local rural community where I grew up in the Rapa. Just more jandals than gumboots. Give your kids your time, plus some water and they are happy.

Like NZ the biggest issue is finding somewhere to live, especially when you first arrive. But once you get over that tough hurdle, life is pretty damn good. Plenty of work around. And course if you are fortunate enough to be able to create an income from a home office, it has all you need. Brisbane an hour down the road if you need to see a museum or some other big city caper.

Oh and on the work front, the aged care/disability work space is massive here. This is a newly wed, nearly dead demographic. A Tauranga/Mt Maunganui.

The National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) has exploded here the last 10 years or so. All sorts of employers looking for NDIS workers. You don't need to be a nurse or anything. Though there are some qualifications that are useful to get. A salaried NDIS carer will get $27-37/hour. Plus super (Kiwi Saver), annual, sick leave etc. A privately contracted NDIS carer can get $45-55/hr. You just need an Australian Business Number (ABN). Obviously no annual leave, or sick leave with that. But with the mild winters it's rare to get the flu here for long.

There is a male carer who looks after a tetraplegic guy, who parks up the wheelchair in the shade outside our local library every week day. The carer guy told me the above $ figures. He said it's the most rewarding job he's ever had. He still works part time as a gym PT, but he could work 7 days per week if he wanted as a carer. The NDIS agencies are always looking for carers. The tetraplegic guy is low intensity, and the carer guy mostly just sits there reading a book. Sometimes I see him with his hand on the tetraplegic guy's shoulder, just letting him know he's there.

In our apartment block (purpose built for NDIS patients with wide lifts & hallways etc for wheelchairs) is another carer who spends alot of time outside walking her client's dog, then sitting in the local cafe outside for a coffee with said dog! Tough life. 

Of course you get more high intensity clients with mental health issues etc. My cousin's son Luke is another carer, and he got given a young angry guy who a paralysed after a skateboard fall. Luke introduced the guy to wheelchair rugby and apparently that's helped massively with the anger he felt about his accident.

Anyway thought this maybe of some small value to anyone considering a move to Aus, and struggling to figure out what to do if they ever did.
Unknown editor edited September 16, 2024 05:13
To Ballane. There is definitely a link between crime and employment - with small businesses anyway. 



Not major businesses closing here due to crime - but they all employ staff, pay tax, and put cash into the economy.

Look there are for sure some dodgy burbs in Australia, with high crime. Broadmeadows in Melbs, pockets of Western Sydney, parts of Logan (Outer Brissy). These sharkter holes all have one thing in common, they are in the Western burbs away from the coast. My advice just don't live there. They ain't nice.

Aussie is a big place, with a massive coastline. There are plenty of smaller cities and towns near the coast with low crime, where housing (renting or ownership) won't cost you a kidney or two. Maybe it's just harder to avoid being a crime victim at some point in NZ, because it's just a small place. It's a short hop from Linwood to leafy Cashmere for those intent on a car thief. In about 15 years total of living in Oztraylia, my sole incident is someone breaking into the street parked old HQ Holden in Collingwood, Melbs (you could open it with a well placed kitchen knife), reclining the front seat for a nice sleep and emptying the parking meter coins. It was July, so I'm guessing a homeless soul looking for a warm bed!


I live on the Sunshine Coast. Interesting reading Rock Hopper above. I was talking to a Brazilian Kiwi here about a month ago. Our kids in the same playground, his boy wearing a Gremio top. Dad & Mum had moved to NZ from Brazil about 20 years prior, lived in Cromwell and other parts before settling in Gizzy for about 10 years. Kids were born in the Poverty Bay.

He said the crime just got to them eventually, and they moved here about a year ago. He's a concreter. Plenty of work. The sun is out most days, so that means concrete gets laid most days. He can park his truck mostly everywhere without fear of it being broken into.

Look without being traitorous towards NZ, I'd recommend that anyone who was really struggling financially in Aotearoa to look at Oz.  It doesn't have to be forever, but yeah if life is struggle in NZ why not.

We are blessed where we live on the Sunshine Coast. Not the most exciting or culturally diverse place granted, but when you are raising young kids as older parents you want it slow paced and just easy. The rug rats are exhausting enough as it is, so who wants to be fudgeing stuck in traffic for hours a day, in a big city. That's a shark outcome in my book.

We have a great local community,with the school, beach, hall/library, shopping mall and local parks centre pieces. Good quality free state run schools. It's a bit like the local rural community where I grew up in the Rapa. Just more jandals than gumboots. Give your kids your time, plus some water and they are happy.

Like NZ the biggest issue is finding somewhere to live, especially when you first arrive. But once you get over that tough hurdle, life is pretty damn good. Plenty of work around. And course if you are fortunate enough to be able to create an income from a home office, it has all you need. Brisbane an hour down the road if you need to see a museum or some other big city caper.

Oh and on the work front, the aged care/disability work space is massive here. This is a newly wed, nearly dead demographic. A Tauranga/Mt Maunganui.

The National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) has exploded here the last 10 years or so. All sorts of employers looking for NDIS workers. You don't need to be a nurse or anything. Though there are some qualifications that are useful to get. A salaried NDIS carer will get $27-37/hour. Plus super (Kiwi Saver), annual, sick leave etc. A privately contracted NDIS carer can get $45-55/hr. You just need an Australian Business Number (ABN). Obviously no annual leave, or sick leave with that. But with the mild winters it's rare to get the flu here for long.

There is a male carer who looks after a tetraplegic guy, who parks up the wheelchair in the shade outside our local library every week day. The carer guy told me the above $ figures. He said it's the most rewarding job he's ever had. He still works part time as a gym PT, but he could work 7 days per week if he wanted as a carer. The NDIS agencies are always looking for carers. The tetraplegic guy is low intensity, and the carer guy mostly just sits there reading a book. Sometimes I see him with his hand on the tetraplegic guy's shoulder, just letting him know he's there.

In our apartment block (purpose built for NDIS patients with wide lifts & hallways etc for wheelchairs) is another carer who spends alot of time outside walking her client's dog, then sitting in the local cafe outside for a coffee with said dog! Tough life. 

Of course you get more high intensity clients with mental health issues etc. My cousin's son Luke is another carer, and he got given a young angry guy who a paralysed after a skateboard fall. Luke introduced the guy to wheelchair rugby and apparently that's helped massively with the anger he felt about his accident.

Anyway thought this maybe of some small value to anyone considering a move to Aus, and struggling to figure out what to do if they ever did.
Unknown editor edited September 16, 2024 05:08
To Ballane. There is definitely a link between crime and employment - with small businesses anyway. 



Not major businesses closing here due to crime - but they all employ staff, pay tax, and put cash into the economy.

Look there are for sure some dodgy burbs in Australia, with high crime. Broadmeadows in Melbs, pockets of Western Sydney, parts of Logan (Outer Brissy). These sharkter holes all have one thing in common, they are in the Western burbs away from the coast. My advice just don't live there. They ain't nice. 

Aussie is a big place, with a massive coastline. There are plenty of smaller cities and towns near the coast with low crime, where housing (renting or ownership) won't cost you a kidney or two. Maybe it's just harder to avoid being a crime victim at some point in NZ, because it's just a small place. It's a short hop from Linwood to leafy Cashmere for those intent on a car thief. In about 15 years total of living in Oztraylia, my sole incident is someone breaking into the street parked old HQ Holden in Collingwood, Melbs (you could open it with a well placed kitchen knife), reclining the front seat for a nice sleep and emptying the parking meter coins. It was July, so I'm guessing a homeless soul looking for a warm bed!


I live on the Sunshine Coast. Interesting reading Rock Hopper above. I was talking to a Brazilian Kiwi here about a month ago. Our kids in the same playground, his boy wearing a Gremio top. Dad & Mum had moved to NZ from Brazil about 20 years prior, lived in Cromwell and other parts before settling in Gizzy for about 10 years. Kids were born in the Poverty Bay.

He said the crime just got to them eventually, and they moved here about a year ago. He's a concreter. Plenty of work. The sun is out most days, so that means concrete gets laid most days. He can park his truck mostly everywhere without fear of it being broken into.

Look without being traitorous towards NZ, I'd recommend that anyone who was really struggling financially in Aotearoa to look at Oz.  It doesn't have to be forever, but yeah if life is struggle in NZ why not.

We are blessed where we live on the Sunshine Coast. Not the most exciting or culturally diverse place granted, but when you are raising young kids as older parents you want it slow paced and just easy. The rug rats are exhausting enough as it is, so who wants to be fudgeing stuck in traffic for hours a day, in a big city. That's a shark otcome in my book.

We have a great local community,with the school, beach, hall/library, shopping mall and local parks centre pieces. Good quality free state run schools. It's a bit like the local rural community where I grew up in the Rapa. Just more jandals than gumboots. Give your kids your time, plus some water and they are happy.

Like NZ the biggest issue is finding somewhere to live, especially when you first arrive. But once you get over that tough hurdle, life is pretty damn good. Plenty of work around. And course if you are fortunate enough to be able to create an income from a home office, it has all you need. Brisbane an hour down the road if you need to see a museum or some other big city caper.

Oh and on the work front, the aged care/disability work space is massive here. This is a newly wed, nearly dead demographic. A Tauranga/Mt Maunganui.

The National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) has exploded here the last 10 years or so. All sorts of employers looking for NDIS workers. You don't need to be a nurse or anything. Though there are some qualifications that are useful to get. A salaried NDIS carer will get $27-37/hour. Plus super (Kiwi Saver), annual, sick leave etc. A privately contracted NDIS carer can get $45-55/hr. You just need an Australian Business Number (ABN). Obviously no annual leave, or sick leave with that. But with the mild winteres it's rare to get the flu here for long.

There is a male carer who looks after a tetraplegic guy, who parks up the wheelchair in the shade outside our local library every week day. The carer guy told me the above $ figures. He said it's the most rewarding job he's ever had. He still works part time as a PT, but he could work 7 days per week if he wanted as a carer. The NDIS agencies are always looking for carers. The tetraplegic guy is low intensity, and the carer guy mostly just sits there reading a book. Sometimes I see him with his hand on the tetraplegic guy's shoulder, just letting him know he's there.

In our apartment block (purpose built for NDIS patients with wide lifts, hallways etc for wheelchairs) is another carer who spends alot of time outside walking her client's dog, then sitting in the local outside cafe for a coffee with said dog! Tough life. 

Of course you get more high intensity clients with mental health issues etc. My cousin's son Luke is another carer, and he got given a young angry guy who have been paralysed after a skateboard fall. Luke introduced the guy to wheelchair rugby and apparently that's helped massively with the anger he felt about his accident.

Anyway thought this maybe of some small value to anyone considering a move to Aus, and struggling to figure out what to do if they ever did.
Unknown editor edited September 16, 2024 02:36
To Ballane. There is definitely a link between crime and employment - with small businesses anyway. 



Not major businesses closing here due to crime - but they all employ staff, pay tax, and put cash into the economy.

Look there are for sure some dodgy burbs in Australia, with high crime. Broadmeadows in Melbs, pockets of Western Sydney, parts of Logan (Outer Brissy). These sharkter holes all have one thing in common, they are in the Western burbs away from the coast. My advice just don't live there. They ain't nice. 

Aussie is a big place, with a massive coastline. There are plenty of smaller cities and towns near the coast with low crime, where housing (renting or ownership) won't cost you a kidney or two. Maybe it's just harder to avoid being a crime victim at some point in NZ, because it's just a small place. It's a short hop from Linwood to leafy Cashmere for those intent on a car thief. In about 15 years total of living in Oztraylia, my sole incident is someone breaking into the street parked old HQ Holden in Collingwood, Melbs (you could open it with a well placed kitchen knife), reclining the front seat for a nice sleep and emptying the parking meter coins. It was July, so I'm guessing a homeless soul looking for a warm bed!


I live on the Sunshine Coast. Interesting reading Rock Hopper above. I was talking to a Brazilian Kiwi here about a month ago. Our kids in the same playground, his boy wearing a Gremio top. Dad & Mum had moved to NZ from Brazil about 20 years prior, lived in Cromwell and other parts before settling in Gizzy for about 10 years. Kids were born in the Poverty Bay.

He said the crime just got to them eventually, and they moved here about a year ago. He's a concreter. Plenty of work. The sun is out most days, so that means concrete gets laid most days. He can park his truck mostly everywhere without fear of it being broken into.

Look without being traitorous towards NZ, I'd recommend that anyone who was really struggling financially in Aotearoa to look at Oz.  It doesn't have to be forever, but yeah if life is struggle in NZ why not.

We are blessed where we live on the Sunshine Coast. Not the most exciting or culturally diverse place granted, but when you are raising young kids as older parents you want it slow paced and just easy. Great local community, the school, beach, shopping mall and local parks centre pieces. Good quality free state run schools. It's bit like the local rural community where I grew up in the Rapa. Just more jandals than gumboots. Give kids your time, and some water they are happy.

Like NZ the biggest issue is finding somewhere to live, especially when you first arrive. But once you get over that hurdle, life is pretty damn good. Plenty of work around. And course if you are fortunate enough to be able to create an income from a home office, it has all you need. Brisbane an hour down the road if you need to see a museum or some other big city caper.

Oh and on the work front, the aged care/disability work space is massive here. This is a newly wed, nearly dead demographic. A Tauranga/Mt Maunganui.

The National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) has exploded here the last 10 years or so. All sorts of employers looking for NDIS workers. You don't need to be a nurse or anything. Though there are some qualifications that are useful to get. A salaried NDIS carer will get $27-37/hour. Plus super (Kiwi Saver), annual, sick leave etc. A privately contracted NDIS carer can get $45-55/hr. You just need an Australian Business Number (ABN). Obviously no annual leave, or sick leave with that. But with the mild winteres it's rare to get the flu here for long.

There is a male carer who looks after a tetraplegic guy, who parks up the wheelchair in the shade outside our local library every week day. The carer guy told me the above $ figures. He said it's the most rewarding job he's ever had. He still works part time as a PT, but he could work 7 days per week if he wanted as a carer. The NDIS agencies are always looking for carers. The tetraplegic guy is low intensity, and the carer guy mostly just sits there reading a book. Sometimes I see him with his hand on the tetraplegic guy's shoulder, just letting him know he's there.

In our apartment block (purpose built for NDIS patients with wide lifts, hallways etc for wheelchairs) is another carer who spends alot of time outside walking her client's dog, then sitting in the local outside cafe for a coffee with said dog! Tough life. 

Of course you get more high intensity clients with mental health issues etc. My cousin's son Luke is another carer, and he got given a young angry guy who have been paralysed after a skateboard fall. Luke introduced the guy to wheelchair rugby and apparently that's helped massively with the anger he felt about his accident.

Anyway thought this maybe of some small value to anyone considering a move to Aus, and struggling to figure out what to do if they ever did.
Unknown editor edited September 16, 2024 02:22
To Ballane. There is definitely a link between crime and employment - with small businesses anyway. 



Not major businesses closing here due to crime - but they all employ staff, pay tax, and put cash into the economy.

Look there are for sure some dodgy burbs in Australia, with high crime. Broadmeadows in Melbs, pockets of Western Sydney, parts of Logan (Outer Brissy). These sharkter holes all have one thing in common, they are in the Western burbs away from the coast. My advice just don't live there. They ain't nice. 

Aussie is a big place, with a massive coastline. There are plenty of smaller cities and towns near the coast with low crime, where housing (renting or ownership) won't cost you a kidney or two. Maybe it's just harder to avoid being a crime victim at some point in NZ, because it's just a small place. It's a short hop from Linwood to leafy Cashmere for those intent on a car thief. In about 15 years total of living in Oztraylia, my sole incident is someone breaking into the street parked old HQ Holden in Collingwood, Melbs (you could open it with a well placed kitchen knife), reclining the front seat for a nice sleep and emptying the parking meter coins. It was July, so I'm guessing a homeless soul looking for a warm bed!


I live on the Sunshine Coast. Interesting reading Rock Hopper above. I was talking to a Brazilian Kiwi here about a month ago. Our kids in the same playground, his boy wearing a Gremio top. Dad & Mum had moved to NZ from Brazil about 20 years prior, lived in Cromwell and other parts before settling in Gizzy for about 10 years. Kids were born in the Poverty Bay.

He said the crime just got to them eventually, and they moved here about a year ago. He's a concreter. Plenty of work. The sun is out most days, so that means concrete gets laid most days. He can park his truck mostly everywhere without fear of it being broken into.

Look without being traitorous towards NZ, I'd recommend that anyone who was really struggling financially in Aotearoa to look at Oz.  It doesn't have to be forever, but yeah if life is struggle in NZ why not.

We are blessed where we live on the Sunshine Coast. Not the most exciting or culturally diverse place granted, but when you are raising young kids as older parents you want it slow paced and just easy. Great local community, the school, beach, shopping mall and local parks centre pieces. Good quality free state run schools. It's bit like the local rural community where I grew up in the Rapa. Just more jandals than gumboots. Give kids your time, and some water they are happy.

Like NZ the biggest issue is finding somewhere to live, especially when you first arrive. But once you get over that hurdle, life is pretty damn good. Plenty of work around. And course if you are fortunate enough to be able to create an income from a home office, it has all you need. Brisbane an hour down the road if you need to see a museum or some other big city caper.

Oh and on the work front, the aged care/disability work space is massive here. This is a newly wed, nearly dead demographic. A Tauranga/Mt Maunganui.

The National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) has exploded here the last 10 years or so. All sorts of employers looking for NDIS workers. You don't need to be a nurse or anything. Though there are some qualifications that are useful to get. A salaried NDIS carer will get $27-37/hour. Plus super (Kiwi Saver), annual, sick leave etc. A privately contracted NDIS carer can get $45-55/hr. You just need an Australian Business Number (ABN). Obviously no annual leave, or sick leave with that. But with the mild winteres it's rare to get the flu here for long.

There is a male carer who looks after a tetraplegic guy, who parks up the wheelchair in the shade outside our local library every week day. The carer guy told me the above $ figures. He said it's the most rewarding job he's ever had. He still works part time as a PT, but he could work 7 days per week if he wanted as a carer. The NDIS agencies are always looking for carers. The tetraplegic guy is low intensity, and the carer guy mostly just sits there reading a book. Sometimes I see him with his hand on the tetraplegic guy's shoulder, just letting him know he's there.

In our apartment block (purpose built for NDIS patients with wide lifts, hallways etc for wheelchairs) is another carer who spends alot of time outside walking her client's dog, then sitting in the local outside cafe for a coffee with said dog! Tough life. 

Of course you get more high intensity clients with mental health issues etc. My cousin's son Luke is another carer, and he got given a young angry guy who have been paralysed after a skateboard fall. Luke introduced the guy to wheelchair rugby and apparently that's hlped massively with the anger he felt about his accident.

Anyway thought this maybe of some value to anyone considering a move to Aus, and struggling to figure out what to do if they ever did.
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To Ballane. There is definitely a link between crime and employment - with small businesses anyway. 



Not major businesses closing here due to crime - but they all employ staff, pay tax, and put cash into the economy.

Look there are for sure some dodgy burbs in Australia, with high crime. Broadmeadows in Melbs, pockets of Western Sydney, parts of Logan (Outer Brissy). These sharkter holes all have one thing in common, they are in the Western burbs away from the coast. My advice just don't live there. They ain't nice. 

Aussie is a big place, with a massive coastline. There are plenty of smaller cities and towns near the coast with low crime, where housing (renting or ownership) won't cost you a kidney or two. Maybe it's just harder to avoid being a crime victim at some point in NZ, because it's just a small place. It's a short hop from Linwood to leafy Cashmere for those intent on a car thief. In about 15 years total of living in Oztraylia, my sole incident is someone breaking into the street parked old HQ Holden in Collingwood, Melbs (you could open it with a well placed kitchen knife), reclining the front seat for a nice sleep and emptying the parking meter coins. It was July, so I'm guessing a homeless soul looking for a warm bed!


I live on the Sunshine Coast. Interesting reading Rock Hopper above. I was talking to a Brazilian Kiwi here about a month ago. Our kids in the same playground, his boy wearing a Gremio top. Dad & Mum had moved to NZ from Brazil about 20 years prior, lived in Cromwell and other parts before settling in Gizzy for about 10 years. Kids were born in the Poverty Bay.

He said the crime just got to them eventually, and they moved here about a year ago. He's a concreter. Plenty of work. The sun is out most days, so that means concrete gets laid most days. He can park his truck mostly everywhere without fear of it being broken into.

Look without being traitorous towards NZ, I'd recommend that anyone who was really struggling financially in Aotearoa to look at Oz.  It doesn't have to be forever, but yeah if life is struggle in NZ why not.

We are blessed where we live on the Sunshine Coast. Not the most exciting or culturally diverse place granted, but when you are raising young kids as older parents you want it slow paced and just easy. Great local community, the school, beach, shopping mall and local parks centre pieces. Good quality free state run schools. It's bit like the local rural community where I grew up in the Rapa. Just more jandals than gumboots. Give kids your time, and some water they are happy.

Like NZ the biggest issue is finding somewhere to live, especially when you first arrive. But once you get over that hurdle, life is pretty damn good. Plenty of work around. And course if you are fortunate enough to be able to create an income from a home office, it has all you need. Brisbane an hour down the road if you need to see a museum or some other caper.

Oh and on the work front, the aged care/disability work space is massive here. This is a newly wed, nearly dead demographic. A Tauranga/Mt Maunganui.

The National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) has exploded here the last 10 years or so. All sorts of employers looking for NDIS workers. You don't need to be a nurse or anything. Though there are some qualifications that are useful to get. A salaried NDIS carer will get $27-37/hour. Plus super (Kiwi Saver), annual, sick leave etc. A privately contracted NDIS carer can get $45-55/hr. You just need an Australian Business Number (ABN). Obviously no annual leave, or sick leave with that. But with the mild winteres it's rare to get the flu here for long.

There is a male carer who looks after a tetrapelgic guy, who parks up the wheelchair in the shade outside our local library every week day. The carer guy told me the above $ figures. He said it's the most rewarding job he's ever had. He still works part time as a PT, but he could work 7 days per week if he wanted as a carer. The NDIS agencies are always looking for carers. The tetralegic guy is low intensity, and the carer guy miostly sits there reading a book. In our apartment block (purpose built for NDIS patients with wide lifts, hallways etc for wheelchairs) is another carer who spends alot of time outside walking her client's dog, then sitting in the local outside cafe for a coffee with said dog! Tough life. 

Of course you get more high intensity clients with mental health issues etc.

Anyway thought this maybe of some value to anyone considering a move to Aus, and struggling to figure out what to do if they ever did.