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Posted August 02, 2016 22:42 · last edited August 02, 2016 22:56

Also I just read your comments in the comment section and they bug me a little too.

If you didn't write the headline that's fine BUT and I want to emphasize this, the readers don't know that.  I would have thought you wrote it too and except for one post that kind of implies you didn't write it, you don't clarify.

I tried to get them to change it as that is not the headline I used and when I tried to make this clear to everyone, the closed the comments so I couldn't add anymore.

The article saying " Why I'm embarrassed to be a Wellingtonian" at a minimum implies its better elsewhere.  After all if I said I was embarrassed to be a Phoenix fan because one drunk guy hit me int he face the Nix and/or yellow fever would say that's not representative of all of them and an appropriate argument would be that one bit of violence isnt specific to football fans. 

Is it a yellow fever problem if one person is a dick?  would you support someone saying its a yellow fever and Liverpool problem if one person wearing a YF scarf and a Liverpool shirt didn't stand up for someone who wanted something but didn't ask?  I would say its unfair to single out yellow fever and Liverpool when the issue could be more widespread.

It was experienced in Wellington, it was written by a Wellingtonian for Wellingtonians to as them to be more considerate, I can hardly write about areas I haven't been to even though they are likely the same or worse. I was embarrassed by the events I saw that we don't tend to live up to our kind and helpful reputation.

 I don't know, might be pointless saying this but I think the headline defines the article as one about being ashamed of this city, which at a minimum implies other places are better at your criticisms, and borderline outright says it.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be about the headline...


I also sense you're going to be angered further by both of my replies. Probably best to let you know now that while I understand your views, I disagree with you 100% that people should need to ask if they need help. We're very far apart on this - I respect your opinion, I'm comfortable with my opinion and there is little change of us meeting in the middle.

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LeighboNZ edited August 02, 2016 22:56

Also I just read your comments in the comment section and they bug me a little too.

If you didn't write the headline that's fine BUT and I want to emphasize this, the readers don't know that.  I would have thought you wrote it too and except for one post that kind of implies you didn't write it, you don't clarify.

I tried to get them to change it as that is not the headline I used and when I tried to make this clear to everyone, the closed the comments so I couldn't add anymore.

The article saying " Why I'm embarrassed to be a Wellingtonian" at a minimum implies its better elsewhere.  After all if I said I was embarrassed to be a Phoenix fan because one drunk guy hit me int he face the Nix and/or yellow fever would say that's not representative of all of them and an appropriate argument would be that one bit of violence isnt specific to football fans. 

Is it a yellow fever problem if one person is a dick?  would you support someone saying its a yellow fever and Liverpool problem if one person wearing a YF scarf and a Liverpool shirt didn't stand up for someone who wanted something but didn't ask?  I would say its unfair to single out yellow fever and Liverpool when the issue could be more widespread.

It was experienced in Wellington, it was written by a Wellingtonian for Wellingtonians to as them to be more considerate, I can hardly write about areas I haven't been to even though they are likely the same or worse. I was embarrassed by the events I saw that we don't tend to live up to our kind and helpful reputation.

 I don't know, might be pointless saying this but I think the headline defines the article as one about being ashamed of this city, which at a minimum implies other places are better at your criticisms, and borderline outright says it.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be about the headline...

LeighboNZ edited August 02, 2016 22:45

Also I just read your comments in the comment section and they bug me a little too.

If you didn't write the headline that's fine BUT and I want to emphasize this, the readers don't know that.  I would have thought you wrote it too and except for one post that kind of implies you didn't write it, you don't clarify.[/quote]

I tried to get them to change it as that is not the headline I used and when I tried to make this clear to everyone, the closed the comments so I couldn't add anymore.

The article saying " Why I'm embarrassed to be a Wellingtonian" at a minimum implies its better elsewhere.  After all if I said I was embarrassed to be a Phoenix fan because one drunk guy hit me int he face the Nix and/or yellow fever would say that's not representative of all of them and an appropriate argument would be that one bit of violence isnt specific to football fans. 

Is it a yellow fever problem if one person is a dick?  would you support someone saying its a yellow fever and Liverpool problem if one person wearing a YF scarf and a Liverpool shirt didn't stand up for someone who wanted something but didn't ask?  I would say its unfair to single out yellow fever and Liverpool when the issue could be more widespread. [/quote]

It was experienced in Wellington, it was written by a Wellingtonian for Wellingtonians to as them to be more considerate, I can hardly write about areas I haven't been to even though they are likely the same or worse. I was embarrassed by the events I saw that we don't tend to live up to our kind and helpful reputation.

 I don't know, might be pointless saying this but I think the headline defines the article as one about being ashamed of this city, which at a minimum implies other places are better at your criticisms, and borderline outright says it.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be about the headline...

LeighboNZ edited August 02, 2016 22:45
Drunk_Monk wrote:
Also I just read your comments in the comment section and they bug me a little too.

If you didn't write the headline that's fine BUT and I want to emphasize this, the readers don't know that.  I would have thought you wrote it too and except for one post that kind of implies you didn't write it, you don't clarify.[/quote]

I tried to get them to change it as that is not the headline I used and when I tried to make this clear to everyone, the closed the comments so I couldn't add anymore.

Drunk_Monk wrote:

The article saying " Why I'm embarrassed to be a Wellingtonian" at a minimum implies its better elsewhere.  After all if I said I was embarrassed to be a Phoenix fan because one drunk guy hit me int he face the Nix and/or yellow fever would say that's not representative of all of them and an appropriate argument would be that one bit of violence isnt specific to football fans. [/quote]

Is it a yellow fever problem if one person is a dick?  would you support someone saying its a yellow fever and Liverpool problem if one person wearing a YF scarf and a Liverpool shirt didn't stand up for someone who wanted something but didn't ask?  I would say its unfair to single out yellow fever and Liverpool when the issue could be more widespread. 

It was experienced in Wellington, it was written by a Wellingtonian for Wellingtonians to as them to be more considerate, I can hardly write about areas I haven't been to even though they are likely the same or worse. I was embarrassed by the events I saw that we don't tend to live up to our kind and helpful reputation.

[quote=Drunk_Monk] I don't know, might be pointless saying this but I think the headline defines the article as one about being ashamed of this city, which at a minimum implies other places are better at your criticisms, and borderline outright says it.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be about the headline...

LeighboNZ edited August 02, 2016 22:44
Drunk_Monk wrote:

Also I just read your comments in the comment section and they bug me a little too.

If you didn't write the headline that's fine BUT and I want to emphasize this, the readers don't know that.  I would have thought you wrote it too and except for one post that kind of implies you didn't write it, you don't clarify.[/quote]

I tried to get them to change it as that is not the headline I used and when I tried to make this clear to everyone, the closed the comments so I couldn't add anymore.

Drunk_Monk wrote:

The article saying " Why I'm embarrassed to be a Wellingtonian" at a minimum implies its better elsewhere.  After all if I said I was embarrassed to be a Phoenix fan because one drunk guy hit me int he face the Nix and/or yellow fever would say that's not representative of all of them and an appropriate argument would be that one bit of violence isnt specific to football fans. [/quote]

Is it a yellow fever problem if one person is a dick?  would you support someone saying its a yellow fever and Liverpool problem if one person wearing a YF scarf and a Liverpool shirt didn't stand up for someone who wanted something but didn't ask?  I would say its unfair to single out yellow fever and Liverpool when the issue could be more widespread. 

It was experienced in Wellington, it was written by a Wellingtonian for Wellingtonians to as them to be more considerate, I can hardly write about areas I haven't been to even though they are likely the same or worse. I was embarrassed by the events I saw that we don't tend to live up to our kind and helpful reputation.

[quote=Drunk_Monk] I don't know, might be pointless saying this but I think the headline defines the article as one about being ashamed of this city, which at a minimum implies other places are better at your criticisms, and borderline outright says it.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be about the headline...

LeighboNZ edited August 02, 2016 22:44
Drunk_Monk wrote:

Also I just read your comments in the comment section and they bug me a little too.

If you didn't write the headline that's fine BUT and I want to emphasize this, the readers don't know that.  I would have thought you wrote it too and except for one post that kind of implies you didn't write it, you don't clarify.[/quote]

I tried to get them to change it as that is not the headline I used and when I tried to make this clear to everyone, the closed the comments so I couldn't add anymore.

Drunk_Monk wrote:

The article saying " Why I'm embarrassed to be a Wellingtonian" at a minimum implies its better elsewhere.  After all if I said I was embarrassed to be a Phoenix fan because one drunk guy hit me int he face the Nix and/or yellow fever would say that's not representative of all of them and an appropriate argument would be that one bit of violence isnt specific to football fans. [/quote]

Is it a yellow fever problem if one person is a dick?  would you support someone saying its a yellow fever and Liverpool problem if one person wearing a YF scarf and a Liverpool shirt didn't stand up for someone who wanted something but didn't ask?  I would say its unfair to single out yellow fever and Liverpool when the issue could be more widespread. 

It was experienced in Wellington, it was written by a Wellingtonian for Wellingtonians to as them to be more considerate, I can hardly write about areas I haven't been to even though they are likely the same or worse. I was embarrassed by the events I saw that we don't tend to live up to our kind and helpful reputation.

[quote=Drunk_Monk] 

I don't know, might be pointless saying this but I think the headline defines the article as one about being ashamed of this city, which at a minimum implies other places are better at your criticisms, and borderline outright says it.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be about the headline...

LeighboNZ edited August 02, 2016 22:43
Drunk_Monk wrote:

Also I just read your comments in the comment section and they bug me a little too.

If you didn't write the headline that's fine BUT and I want to emphasize this, the readers don't know that.  I would have thought you wrote it too and except for one post that kind of implies you didn't write it, you don't clarify.[/quote]

I tried to get them to change it as that is not the headline I used and when I tried to make this clear to everyone, the closed the comments so I couldn't add anymore.

Drunk_Monk wrote:
The article saying " Why I'm embarrassed to be a Wellingtonian" at a minimum implies its better elsewhere.  After all if I said I was embarrassed to be a Phoenix fan because one drunk guy hit me int he face the Nix and/or yellow fever would say that's not representative of all of them and an appropriate argument would be that one bit of violence isnt specific to football fans. [/quote]

Is it a yellow fever problem if one person is a dick?  would you support someone saying its a yellow fever and Liverpool problem if one person wearing a YF scarf and a Liverpool shirt didn't stand up for someone who wanted something but didn't ask?  I would say its unfair to single out yellow fever and Liverpool when the issue could be more widespread. 

It was experienced in Wellington, it was written by a Wellingtonian for Wellingtonians to as them to be more considerate, I can hardly write about areas I haven't been to even though they are likely the same or worse. I was embarrassed by the events I saw that we don't tend to live up to our kind and helpful reputation.

[quote=Drunk_Monk] I don't know, might be pointless saying this but I think the headline defines the article as one about being ashamed of this city, which at a minimum implies other places are better at your criticisms, and borderline outright says it.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be about the headline...

LeighboNZ edited August 02, 2016 22:43
Drunk_Monk wrote:

Also I just read your comments in the comment section and they bug me a little too.

If you didn't write the headline that's fine BUT and I want to emphasize this, the readers don't know that.  I would have thought you wrote it too and except for one post that kind of implies you didn't write it, you don't clarify.[/quote]

I tried to get them to change it as that is not the headline I used and when I tried to make this clear to everyone, the closed the comments so I couldn't add anymore.

Drunk_Monk wrote:
The article saying " Why I'm embarrassed to be a Wellingtonian" at a minimum implies its better elsewhere.  After all if I said I was embarrassed to be a Phoenix fan because one drunk guy hit me int he face the Nix and/or yellow fever would say that's not representative of all of them and an appropriate argument would be that one bit of violence isnt specific to football fans. 

It was experienced in Wellington, it was written by a Wellingtonian for Wellingtonians to as them to be more considerate, I can hardly write about areas I haven't been to even though they are likely the same or worse. I was embarrassed by the events I saw that we don't tend to live up to our kind and helpful reputation.

Is it a yellow fever problem if one person is a dick?  would you support someone saying its a yellow fever and Liverpool problem if one person wearing a YF scarf and a Liverpool shirt didn't stand up for someone who wanted something but didn't ask?  I would say its unfair to single out yellow fever and Liverpool when the issue could be more widespread.  

[quote=Drunk_Monk]I don't know, might be pointless saying this but I think the headline defines the article as one about being ashamed of this city, which at a minimum implies other places are better at your criticisms, and borderline outright says it.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be about the headline...