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Posted March 19, 2018 22:38 · last edited March 19, 2018 22:39

paulm wrote:

Doloras wrote:

And the person suggesting that anti-Aussie chants are "racist" is straw-manning and trying to muddy the waters.

No attempt to muddy anything here Doloras, and you can address me directly if you like. 

Lets just say xenophobic instead of racist to appease you, if you're ok with that.

Okay, let's say xenophobic, which is a completely different kettle of fish. Two points:


1) There is a difference between punching up and punching down. The Nix play in an Aussie league which is biased in various ways towards the Aussie teams and which keeps threatening to kick us out. Therefore I don't see an issue. However, if any Aussie who plays for the Nix (eg our captain who was born there) were to take offence, I would at that point agree with ending the chant.

2) Is it xenophobia (or its younger cousin, parochialism) when we do chants mocking Auckland? As a Wellingtonian who lives and has her family in Auckland, I don't feel comfortable joining in such chants but I don't think they're tantamount to racism.

3) In the run-up to the NZ-Peru fixtures, Balbi posted some hilarious memes on his twitter page mocking various Peruvian foods, cultural items, and Paddington Bear. Was that xenophobia or was that good-natured banter?

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paulm wrote:
Doloras wrote:

And the person suggesting that anti-Aussie chants are "racist" is straw-manning and trying to muddy the waters.

No attempt to muddy anything here Doloras, and you can address me directly if you like. 

Lets just say xenophobic instead of racist to appease you, if you're ok with that.

Okay, let's say xenophobic, which is a completely different kettle of fish. Two points:


1) There is a difference between punching up and punching down. The Nix play in an Aussie league which is biased in various ways towards the Aussie teams and which keeps threatening to kick us out. Therefore I don't see an issue. However, if any Aussie who plays for the Nix (eg our captain who was born there) were to take offence, I would at that point agree with ending the chant.

2) In the run-up to the NZ-Peru fixtures, Balbi posted some hilarious memes on his twitter page mocking various Peruvian foods, cultural items, and Paddington Bear. Was that xenophobia or was that good-natured banter?