so its ok for you to hurl abuse/threats at another guy but if someone said it to your daughters you'd be upset? double standard much?
I wasn't there, but the blow by blow from both parties seems consistent and to me it doesn't seem like there was any sort of threat, just a drunken "listen to me" grab, followed by a "don't attack me" retort, and then a "if I attacked you, you'd know it" explanation/boast.
It's all pretty typical of a night out with a few beers, the crazyest thing to me is not what happened but that Hatter didn't just try and forget about it and move on but instead brought it up here.
That’s the main gist of it, & the reason I bought it up here, was because of the PC BULLSHIT that has permeated the Yellow Fever.
That pisses me off, as I believe it has ruined what used to be a bloody good group. There are many people that used to be regulars on here, that no longer bother even going to the games (some of them have season tickets but still don’t go!) There are many others that do not associate themselves with Yellow Fever, because of the attitude of the “Yellow Fever Elite”
Up until Saturday, even though I had voiced my opinions about the “YF Elite”, I put up with it. But, on Saturday there seemed to be a new sanctimonious air about them throughout the day, which had been noticed, & commented on, by others in Auckland.
The Yellow Fever appear to be going in the same direction as the team, that some of us have followed since 2007.
I wonder if the fact that the forum has become PC has driven people away, or if it's more PC because people have left. My guess is that the the bulk of the initial people on here have simply faded away and haven't been replaced, or have gone to other communities.
It's pretty natural for people to drift away after ten years, if you're in your twenties at the start then you're in your thirties at the end and things life family takes priority. I've seen it time and time again with my mates and things we used to do.
The whole "PC BULLSHIT" thing is just the natural evolution of society, just look at how society has changed over the last century, and how it changed in the century before that and you'll see a general move towards fairness and tolerance. What's happening now is less momentous than what happened in the US in the sixties, or NZ in the 19th century but it's more of the same theme. NZ is maybe more PC than most places, but that's pretty consistent with how we've been at the forefront of liberty and human rights for most of our history.
Change sucks, but what's happening is not out of character or unexpected.