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I can tell you though that Man Utd are victors again! Get in!
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Smithy wrote:
LHCAFC cracked half a million dollars in 2008/9:

http://www.wsef.org.nz/pdf/2008-09%20Funding%20Approved.pdf



Why the hell am I passing so much in subs then...
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footyfeva wrote:
I can tell you though that Man Utd are victors again! Get in!


19?
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You can be on my quiz team! Fourth champions league only a sniff away.
Legend
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footyfeva wrote:
You can be on my quiz team! Fourth champions league only a sniff away.
Patterson family xmas quiz?
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footyfeva wrote:
You can be on my quiz team! Fourth champions league only a sniff away.
Is that the Station Village tuesday night quiz?
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No, don't know about that - was meant as a figure of speech - not literally! Although Smithy sounds like a smart man-utd.

Still Believin'
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Smithy wrote:
NEWSFLASH: Pokie machine system slightly suspect.

Come on people, we all know the whole system is a bit dodge.  Lower Hutt aren't the only ones with their hands in the cookie jar by a long stretch.

And that's nothing against anyone else either, it just is what it is.
 
There are degrees of dodgy though.
 
In general, as long as clubs are competing on an equal footing for funding, and are spending the money on what they said they would spend it on, then I don't have a problem. If a club is simply putting in more or better applications than other clubs then good luck to them.
 
On the other hand, if a club has a "special relationship" with either a venue or a trust, however, that means they are getting favourable treatment, then that's a different story altogether.
 
EDIT: for "clubs" above read any organisation really.
terminator_x2011-05-23 17:07:19
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Good on Lower Hutt.
At least they appear to be spending it on good facilities and coaching programmes and not wasting it on overpaying players.
Early retirement
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Legend
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no wonder they got the suspension over-turned with a 35k budget for management fees
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nightz wrote:
Good on Lower Hutt.
At least they appear to be spending it on good facilities and coaching programmes and not wasting it on overpaying players.


I don't think you're really that naive and stupid.

Oh wait, yes I do.


Stage Punch
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terminator_x wrote:
Smithy wrote:
NEWSFLASH: Pokie machine system slightly suspect.

Come on people, we all know the whole system is a bit dodge.  Lower Hutt aren't the only ones with their hands in the cookie jar by a long stretch.

And that's nothing against anyone else either, it just is what it is.
 
There are degrees of dodgy though.
 
In general, as long as clubs are competing on an equal footing for funding, and are spending the money on what they said they would spend it on, then I don't have a problem. If a club is simply putting in more or better applications than other clubs then good luck to them.
 
On the other hand, if a club has a "special relationship" with either a venue or a trust, however, that means they are getting favourable treatment, then that's a different story altogether.
 
EDIT: for "clubs" above read any organisation really.


I'm not saying it's right.  I think the whole system is f*cked.  I'm just saying that there aren't many who can stand up on yonder high ground. 

Fundamentally, a sports funding system that takes money out of the pockets of recidivist gamblers in order to prop up social sport is a pretty shonky arrangement.

Does anyone know the history of the pokie funding system?  I presume it goes back to the banning of liquor and tobacco advertising in sport?
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nightz wrote:
Good on Lower Hutt.
At least they appear to be spending it on good facilities and coaching programmes and not wasting it on overpaying players.



monkeyboy2011-05-23 18:19:33
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nightz wrote:
Good on Lower Hutt.
At least they appear to be spending it on good facilities and coaching programmes and not wasting it on overpaying players.
Are you being Sarcastic?
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footyfeva wrote:
A small Hutt Valley club - but I don't think idolise is the right word, just stating what they have without any prejudice (unlike the tone of your response!)
 
Yak From what I read in the paper and from a colleague at work whose daughter went to the same school as the Karori player, she was a bully right through school, so whilst not condoning it, I think it does take two to tango, and shows there is always a lot more to a story. But yes, violence does not solve things and the player needs to get a grip.  Although in saying that I did want to release on a player in our game on Saturday...tsk tsk
Wow.... Worst post ever on yellowfever possibly
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Buildit wrote:
Wow.... Worst post ever on yellowfever�possibly


You haven't been around long obviously
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Ard Righ wrote:
Buildit wrote:
Wow.... Worst post ever on yellowfever�possibly


You haven't been around long obviously


This.
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Smithy wrote:

I'm not saying it's right.� I think the whole system is f*cked.� I'm just saying that there aren't many who can stand up on yonder high ground.� Fundamentally, a sports funding system that takes money out of the pockets of recidivist gamblers in order to prop up social sport is a pretty shonky arrangement. Does anyone know the history of the pokie funding system?� I presume it goes back to the banning of liquor and tobacco advertising in sport?


Totally agree. Removing all these water/helicopter/dodgy trusts and pub links will get rid of all this drama and rubbish. A central govt organisation that has a budget to hand out money to viable clubs for viable projects is the way to go. And get rid of the pokies altogether. The sooner the better.
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nightz wrote:
Good on Lower Hutt.
At least they appear to be spending it on good facilities and coaching programmes and not wasting it on overpaying players.


How's bell park looking these days?
WeeNix
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From what I can figure out is if more people played football then less would be at the beach in danger of drowning so quite easily justified. 
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WeeNix
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Oh yeah! That well justifies giving "water safety" money to football clubs after the last few seasons we've had round here. Also Seatoun Park, Bell Park,  Memorial Park all have water safety issues that should be addressed. Hutt Park looked good enough to swim in the previous Sunday.
SportZone2011-05-23 22:11:27
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I'd love to see a breakdown of where $1.7 million dollars over 5 years has gone into Lower Hutt - because from an outside view - I see sweet F all.
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I would say it is tied up in coaching fees - Full Time coach and that would be how they get around paying their players!
 
 
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I know in previous years they were paying a small number of players to coach the kids and would get a grant for it. The plus side being they get to play First team on Sautrdays/Sundays. A loop hole in the system that they were taking advantage of. To be fair i don't think they are the only club in Wellington that has done this.

Thats only a portion of the money so i don't know where the rest is going. I doubt we are going to find out until an audit by internal affairs is carried out and that could take forever!!!
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Buildit wrote:
Thats only a portion of the money so i don't know where the rest is going. I doubt we are going to find out until an audit by internal affairs is carried out and that could take forever!!!
 
Did you not read the story?  Internal Affairs aren't doing an audit on what the money was spent on.
 
 
Head Sleuth
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Traveller wrote:
Buildit wrote:
Thats only a portion of the money so i don't know where the rest is going. I doubt we are going to find out until an audit by internal affairs is carried out and that could take forever!!!
 
Did you not read the story?  Internal Affairs aren't doing an audit on what the money was spent on.
 
 
Thats disapointing
Appiah without the pace
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I take it that Nightz crawled back under his rock?
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What situation?
 
In Jan 2010 an investigation was taking place into conflct of interest.
Internal affairs have at May 2011 said they had given the club a warning about excessive admin costs.
The senior exective of the trust clearified the purpose of the trust which is "the trust had two authorised purposes, to promote water safety and to distribute funds to groups in the communities where it had gained gaming machine funds."
 
What more did you need to know, there is no story, it was just a beat up because Surf Life Saving Otago was having a moan.
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nightz wrote:
What situation?
 
In Jan 2010 an investigation was taking place into conflct of interest.
Internal affairs have at May 2011 said they had given the club a warning about excessive admin costs.
The senior exective of the trust clearified the purpose of the trust which is "the trust had two authorised purposes, to promote water safety and to distribute funds to groups in the communities where it had gained gaming machine funds."
 
What more did you need to know, there is no story, it was just a beat up because Surf Life Saving Otago was having a moan.
 
Except the conflict of interest investigation is still ongoing as I understand it, the admin cost warning is separate & came up as part of that investigation.
 
 
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Where in the article does it say the investigation is ongoing?
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The Department of Internal Affairs, which told the Star-Times in January 2010 it was investigating the foundation, said an inquiry into possible conflicts of interest with the Lower Hutt soccer club was "unfinished". Internal Affairs said it had given the club a formal warning about excessive administration costs
 
Thats a paragraph from the article. Makes it pretty clear that it is still ongoing. inquiry and an Investigation are pretty much the same thing. 
Starting XI
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It makes it pretty clear that there was an ongoing investigation in Janary 2010, not now 18 months later.
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Appiah without the pace
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Not sure you are in a position to call anyone stupid when you have the wrong 'your' in your signature.  Should be "You're".

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