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Posted November 30, 2018 08:34 · last edited November 30, 2018 08:42

Feverish wrote:

ConanTroutman wrote:

happydays wrote:

chopah wrote:

Yeah a per player levy instead of a team levy seems to be very counter productive in senior football particularly.

Maybe it's a sign that we need to think about how we run senior social football in the future

Shows a real lack of understanding of how social football works. The O40s team I play has a squad of about 22 guys so previously we have worked out a per person rate to cover our fees, and even then it's not easy getting everyone to pay on time.

AFF need to understand it needs to be easy for the player, not them

I've always felt that as a social player you get pretty ripped off anyway - you pay as much (sometimes more) than players in more competitive grades but you don't get a ref, you generally get worse grounds, crappier uniforms from the club, sharktier nets and so on. I understand why when there's limited resources they go to the better teams but it still feels like you're subsidising the higher up teams.

Details?

Don't know what details you want - that's just my impression of it from years of social football, mostly in the Manawatu and a bit in Wellington. Just in lower grades you get more games on the worse grounds (although I haven't played much in a few years and I think it's got better thanks to the artificial pitches). And wearing older, worn out hand me down strips from higher teams. And of course you have to ref your own games, getting nets with holes in, no corner flags, etc.

Not blaming clubs or players in higher grades, it just is what it is, but in terms of value for your fees I felt like I got a lot more bang for my buck when I played in some higher grades a few times. Miss a few games with injury or whatever and you don't get fees back either, so you just end up paying more per game too - which is the same at every grade of course, but if fees are say $200 and you only end up playing 5 games because of ground closure, injury, family, work, whatever, you just paid $40 per game for that, which is pretty steep compared to say social indoor where you pay per game and always get a ref and so on...

Maybe "ripped off" is a bit strong, but I don't think social football is great value for money

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Feverish wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:
happydays wrote:
chopah wrote:

Yeah a per player levy instead of a team levy seems to be very counter productive in senior football particularly.

Maybe it's a sign that we need to think about how we run senior social football in the future

Shows a real lack of understanding of how social football works. The O40s team I play has a squad of about 22 guys so previously we have worked out a per person rate to cover our fees, and even then it's not easy getting everyone to pay on time.

AFF need to understand it needs to be easy for the player, not them

I've always felt that as a social player you get pretty ripped off anyway - you pay as much (sometimes more) than players in more competitive grades but you don't get a ref, you generally get worse grounds, crappier uniforms from the club, sharktier nets and so on. I understand why when there's limited resources they go to the better teams but it still feels like you're subsidising the higher up teams.

Details?

Don't know what details you want - that's just my impression of it from years of social football, mostly in the Manawatu and a bit in Wellington. Just in lower grades you get more games on the worse grounds (although I haven't played much in a few years and I think it's got better thanks to the artificial pitches). And wearing older, worn out hand me down strips from higher teams. And of course you have to ref your own games, getting nets with holes in, no corner flags, etc.

Not blaming clubs or players in higher grades, it just is what it is, but in terms of value for your fees I felt like I got a lot more bang for my buck when I played in some higher grades a few times. Miss a few games with injury or whatever and you don't get fees back either, so you just end up paying more per game too - which is the same at every grade of course, but if fees are say $200 and you only end up playing 5 games because of injury, family, work, whatever, you just paid $40 per game for that, which is pretty steep compared to say social indoor where you pay per game and always get a ref and so on...

Maybe "ripped off" is a bit strong, but I don't think social football is great value for money

Unknown editor edited November 30, 2018 08:36
Feverish wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:
happydays wrote:
chopah wrote:

Yeah a per player levy instead of a team levy seems to be very counter productive in senior football particularly.

Maybe it's a sign that we need to think about how we run senior social football in the future

Shows a real lack of understanding of how social football works. The O40s team I play has a squad of about 22 guys so previously we have worked out a per person rate to cover our fees, and even then it's not easy getting everyone to pay on time.

AFF need to understand it needs to be easy for the player, not them

I've always felt that as a social player you get pretty ripped off anyway - you pay as much (sometimes more) than players in more competitive grades but you don't get a ref, you generally get worse grounds, crappier uniforms from the club, sharktier nets and so on. I understand why when there's limited resources they go to the better teams but it still feels like you're subsidising the higher up teams.

Details?

Don't know what details you want - that's just my impression of it from years of social football, mostly in the Manawatu and a bit in Wellington. Just in lower grades you get more games on the worse grounds (although I haven't played much in a few years and I think it's got better thanks to the artificial pitches). And wearing older, worn out hand me down strips from higher teams. And of course you have to ref your own games, getting nets with holes in, no corner flags, etc.

Not blaming clubs or players in higher grades, it just is what it is, but in terms of value for your fees I felt like I got a lot more bang for my buck when I played in some higher grades a few times. Miss a few games with injury or whatever and you don't get fees back either, so you just end up paying more per game too - which is the same at every grade of course, but if fees are say $200 and you only end up playing 5 games because of injury, family, work, whatever, you just paid $40 per game for that, which is pretty steep compared to say social indoor where you pay per game and always get a ref and so on...