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Posted March 18, 2014 22:40 · last edited March 18, 2014 23:01

Prickly Thistle wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Eric Adam was sold and put into a trust, we can't touch it (to prevent us from squandering it on players would you believe!), Bexley tied up in CCC/insurance wrangle, they seem to hold all the power when you're reliant on volunteers. Never ending dramarama on top of what you get to deal with at home and business, I fully understand why people walk away from all of this. Three and a half years now and we are just starting to replace the floodlights we lost, let alone the gymnasium. Enjoy your time in the sun, you never know what's around the corner. Only bonus is I get to rent a flat to Vim while he gets kicked out of his house for repairs :)

Sounds very frustrating, Surely there is enough involved to get the professionals on to it though, and get onto the trustees from Rangers. There has got to be some interest available. At least you can charge Vim plenty.

The frustrating part is the time it takes over and above the ordinary responsibilities within the club on a day to day basis. insurance companies seem to have become specialists in creating barriers. We have had specialist advice and as is not unusual would need to test it in court  with no guaranteed outcome - not really satisfactory for the members at this stage.  The trustees of EA park are very supportive, they have burnt some capital over the past few years while we got sorted as to where we would live long term. Some are even willing to spend the capital on players! Obviously they don't hold sway or you would have seen us go toe to toe with Bays, a dubious situation imo.


Regarding the recent debate over player payments I think all clubs are free to spend their income as they see fit under the rules and it is not for a few to tell the rest what is and isn't ok. We don't because we have a philosophy of doing what we think is in the best interests of the game, when that changes (and it is a constant item of debate don't you worry - your thoughts have added some fuel to the argument) you may see a different approach from the club. 

Where this argument has gone a bit pear shaped is the perception that what is said on here should be taken seriously and is not merely someone's biased opinion, mine, yours et al included. While it is a conduit for opinions and information, by it's very nature a forum should never be taken at all seriously. The use of avatars and ridiculous user names is a fair indication that this is indeed a fantasy world. One of the reasons I follow (and post) is I find it informative and entertaining at the same time, but take nothing as gospel. I intend neither to offend nor intimidate although I'm pretty sure if I reread all of my posts I would be horrified at some of what I have published (barring the Spam United days of course :). It is also an opportunity for people to vent anonymously (or bait those who desire to do so - guilty!) sometimes with little regard to the outcome or who is affected - I think so long as we all realise we are passionate supporters of the game and pay due respect to that (and the forum rules) we will be fine, all for the better of the game. 

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Ronaldoknow edited March 18, 2014 23:01
Prickly Thistle wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Eric Adam was sold and put into a trust, we can't touch it (to prevent us from squandering it on players would you believe!), Bexley tied up in CCC/insurance wrangle, they seem to hold all the power when you're reliant on volunteers. Never ending dramarama on top of what you get to deal with at home and business, I fully understand why people walk away from all of this. Three and a half years now and we are just starting to replace the floodlights we lost, let alone the gymnasium. Enjoy your time in the sun, you never know what's around the corner. Only bonus is I get to rent a flat to Vim while he gets kicked out of his house for repairs :)

Sounds very frustrating, Surely there is enough involved to get the professionals on to it though, and get onto the trustees from Rangers. There has got to be some interest available. At least you can charge Vim plenty.

The frustrating part is the time it takes over and above the ordinary responsibilities within the club on a day to day basis. insurance companies seem to have become specialists in creating barriers. We have had specialist advice and as is not unusual would need to test it in court  with no guaranteed outcome - not really satisfactory for the members at this stage.  The trustees of EA park are very supportive, they have burnt some capital over the past few years while we got sorted as to where we would live long term. Some are even willing to spend the capital on players! Obviously they don't hold sway or you would have seen us go toe to toe with Bays, a dubious situation imo.


Regarding the recent debate over player payments I think all clubs are free to spend their income as they see fit under the rules and it is not for a few to tell the rest what is and isn't ok. We don't because we have a philosophy of doing what we think is in the best interests of the game, when that changes (and it is a constant item of debate don't you worry - your thoughts have added some fuel to the argument) you may see a different approach from the club. 

Where this argument has gone a bit pear shaped is the perception that what is said on here should be taken seriously and is not merely someone's biased opinion, mine, yours et al included. While it is a conduit for opinions and information, by it's very nature a forum should never be taken at all seriously. The use of avatars and ridiculous user names is a fair indication that this is indeed a fantasy world. One of the reasons I follow (and post) is I find it informative and entertaining at the same time, but take nothing as gospel. I intend neither to offend nor intimidate although I'm pretty sure if I reread all of my posts I would be horrified at some of what I have published (barring the Spam United days of course :). It is also an opportunity for people to vent anonymously (or bait those who desire to do so - guilty!) sometimes with little regard to the outcome or who is affected - I think so long as we all realise we are passionate supporters of the game and pay due respect to that (and the forum rules) we will be fine, all for the better of the game. 

Somehow I think this post will come back to haunt me - where's Ray Hicks? :)

Ronaldoknow edited March 18, 2014 23:01
Prickly Thistle wrote:
Ronaldoknow wrote:

Eric Adam was sold and put into a trust, we can't touch it (to prevent us from squandering it on players would you believe!), Bexley tied up in CCC/insurance wrangle, they seem to hold all the power when you're reliant on volunteers. Never ending dramarama on top of what you get to deal with at home and business, I fully understand why people walk away from all of this. Three and a half years now and we are just starting to replace the floodlights we lost, let alone the gymnasium. Enjoy your time in the sun, you never know what's around the corner. Only bonus is I get to rent a flat to Vim while he gets kicked out of his house for repairs :)

Sounds very frustrating, Surely there is enough involved to get the professionals on to it though, and get onto the trustees from Rangers. There has got to be some interest available. At least you can charge Vim plenty.

The frustrating part is the time it takes over and above the ordinary responsibilities within the club on a day to day basis. insurance companies seem to have become specialists in creating barriers. We have had specialist advice and as is not unusual would need to test it in court  with no guaranteed outcome - not really satisfactory for the members at this stage.  The trustees of EA park are very supportive, they have burnt some capital over the past few years while we got sorted as to where we would live long term. Some are even willing to spend the capital on players! Obviously they don't hold sway or you would have seen us go toe to toe with Bays, a dubious situation imo.

Regarding the recent debate over player payments I think all clubs are free to spend their income as they see fit under the rules and it is not for a few to tell the rest what is and isn't ok. We don't because we have a philosophy of doing what is in the best interests of the game, when that changes (and it is a constant item of debate don't you worry - your thoughts have added some fuel to the argument) yu may see a different approach form the club. 
Where this argument has gone a bit pear shaped is the perception that what is said on here should be taken seriously and is not merely someone's biased opinion, mine, yours et al included. While it is a conduit for opinions and information, by it's very nature a forum should never be taken at all seriously. The use of avatars and ridiculous user names is a fair indication that this is indeed a fantasy world. One of the reasons I follow (and post) is I find it informative and entertaining at the same time, but take nothing as gospel. I intend neither to offend nor intimidate although I'm pretty sure if I reread all of my posts I would be horrified at some of what I have published (barring the Spam United days of course :). It is also an opportunity for people to vent anonymously (or bait those who desire to do so - guilty!) sometimes with little regard to the outcome or who is affected - I think so long as we all realise we are passionate supporters of the game and pay due respect to that (and the forum rules) we will be fine, all for the better of the game. 
Somehow I think this post will come back to haunt me - where's Ray Hicks? :)