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Posted December 14, 2022 00:09 · last edited December 14, 2022 00:10

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theprof
If the APL fail in keeping the league aflot we all lose, Aussie fans and us. If this long protest wins (which it wont) the potential for clbs to fold due to lack of support in our faces again. The big clubs wont fold, the nix could and who loses? not the league, not the APL! We as Nix fans do, and for what? Solidarity?

Please note Nelfoos I've not name called or anything in my posts, implying I'm a self-serving wanker is unnecessary, play the ball not the man!

Often protests are undertaken by the idealists, and these are generally the ones that are too naive to see/understand and accept the financial realities of running a business/league/football club. Sometimes you have to accept a decision becasue it makes financial sense, even if on a moral/sporting level you dont like it. (this is where I see the nix being at) expecting them to come out firing is ridiculous, noone is going to bite the hand that feeds them - except somone who refuses to understand the complxities of the situation. 

So, no matter what, we need to shut up and take it because they could take things away from us? That's a 5 year old's reasoning. There's a line worth taking a stand somewhere and for me and thousands of other A-League fans, this is the line. 

If the financial realities are such that $4m/year is the difference between life and death then its already dead and Rob should stop pissing his money away yesterday.

Sorry, but if you're gonna act like a self-serving wanker, I'm gonna tell you that. Putting your own interests above all the other fans is self-serving wankerism, like it or not.

ok I'll call it like I see it, you my firend are behaving like a spoiled brat! As are a lot of the other fans in Aus. the big mean APL have taken our finals away from us, so we'll stamp our feet and try and ruin football for everyone!
Grow the fudge up, sometimes it's not all about you getting what you want, when you want it. Money makes the workd go around, and that includes the A-league. If this deal guarantees the league for another 3 years then I for one am happy for that. Because if the league fails, the nix fail and that means you, me, the YF and casual fans, NZF all lose!
The only people ruining football are those sitting still and letting the APL do what they're doing.

This deal doesn't guarantee the league for that long, its a paltry sum of cash in what it takes to operate the league. I'll say it again since you didn't get it the first few times - if $4m a year is the difference between life and death then we're already dead.

I understand that if the league fails, there is no Nix, which is why it is so confusing to me that you're willing to stand around and let the APL do its utmost to kill it.  

You're gonna have to accept that these protests are happening and fans are not going to shut up about this until the deal is gone. As I see it, the league is on borrowed time as long as this board is in charge and the sooner their incompetence can be nipped in the bud, the better. You're right, this isn't remotely about what I want. This is about what's best for football and your position ain't it.

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theprof
Nelfoos
theprof
If the APL fail in keeping the league aflot we all lose, Aussie fans and us. If this long protest wins (which it wont) the potential for clbs to fold due to lack of support in our faces again. The big clubs wont fold, the nix could and who loses? not the league, not the APL! We as Nix fans do, and for what? Solidarity?

Please note Nelfoos I've not name called or anything in my posts, implying I'm a self-serving wanker is unnecessary, play the ball not the man!

Often protests are undertaken by the idealists, and these are generally the ones that are too naive to see/understand and accept the financial realities of running a business/league/football club. Sometimes you have to accept a decision becasue it makes financial sense, even if on a moral/sporting level you dont like it. (this is where I see the nix being at) expecting them to come out firing is ridiculous, noone is going to bite the hand that feeds them - except somone who refuses to understand the complxities of the situation. 

So, no matter what, we need to shut up and take it because they could take things away from us? That's a 5 year old's reasoning. There's a line worth taking a stand somewhere and for me and thousands of other A-League fans, this is the line. 

If the financial realities are such that $4m/year is the difference between life and death then its already dead and Rob should stop pissing his money away yesterday.

Sorry, but if you're gonna act like a self-serving wanker, I'm gonna tell you that. Putting your own interests above all the other fans is self-serving wankerism, like it or not.

ok I'll call it like I see it, you my firend are behaving like a spoiled brat! As are a lot of the other fans in Aus. the big mean APL have taken our finals away from us, so we'll stamp our feet and try and ruin football for everyone!
Grow the fudge up, sometimes it's not all about you getting what you want, when you want it. Money makes the workd go around, and that includes the A-league. If this deal guarantees the league for another 3 years then I for one am happy for that. Because if the league fails, the nix fail and that means you, me, the YF and casual fans, NZF all lose!
The only people ruining football are those sitting still and letting the APL take do what they're doing.

This deal doesn't guarantee the league for that long, its a paltry sum of cash in what it takes to operate the league. I'll say it again since you didn't get it the first few times - if $4m a year is the difference between life and death then we're already dead.

I understand that if the league fails, there is no Nix, which is why it is so confusing to me that you're willing to stand around and let the APL do its utmost to kill it.  

You're gonna have to accept that these protests are happening and fans are not going to shut up about this until the deal is gone. As I see it, the league is on borrowed time as long as this board is in charge and the sooner their incompetence can be nipped in the bud, the better. You're right, this isn't remotely about what I want. This is about what's best for football and your position ain't it.

Unknown editor edited December 14, 2022 00:10
theprof
Nelfoos
theprof
If the APL fail in keeping the league aflot we all lose, Aussie fans and us. If this long protest wins (which it wont) the potential for clbs to fold due to lack of support in our faces again. The big clubs wont fold, the nix could and who loses? not the league, not the APL! We as Nix fans do, and for what? Solidarity?

Please note Nelfoos I've not name called or anything in my posts, implying I'm a self-serving wanker is unnecessary, play the ball not the man!

Often protests are undertaken by the idealists, and these are generally the ones that are too naive to see/understand and accept the financial realities of running a business/league/football club. Sometimes you have to accept a decision becasue it makes financial sense, even if on a moral/sporting level you dont like it. (this is where I see the nix being at) expecting them to come out firing is ridiculous, noone is going to bite the hand that feeds them - except somone who refuses to understand the complxities of the situation. 

So, no matter what, we need to shut up and take it because they could take things away from us? That's a 5 year old's reasoning. There's a line worth taking a stand somewhere and for me and thousands of other A-League fans, this is the line. 

If the financial realities are such that $4m/year is the difference between life and death then its already dead and Rob should stop pissing his money away yesterday.

Sorry, but if you're gonna act like a self-serving wanker, I'm gonna tell you that. Putting your own interests above all the other fans is self-serving wankerism, like it or not.

ok I'll call it like I see it, you my firend are behaving like a spoiled brat! As are a lot of the other fans in Aus. the big mean APL have taken our finals away from us, so we'll stamp our feet and try and ruin football for everyone!
Grow the fudge up, sometimes it's not all about you getting what you want, when you want it. Money makes the workd go around, and that includes the A-league. If this deal guarantees the league for another 3 years then I for one am happy for that. Because if the league fails, the nix fail and that means you, me, the YF and casual fans, NZF all lose!
The only people ruining football are those sitting still and letting the APL take do what they're doing.

This deal doesn't guarantee the league for that long, its a paltry sum of cash in what it takes to operate the league. I'll say it again since you didn't get it the first few times - if $4m a year is the difference between life and death then we're already dead.

I understand that if the league fails, there is no Nix, which is why it is so confusing to me that you're willing to stand around and let the APL do its utmost to kill it.  

You're gonna have to accept that these protests are happening and fans are not going to shut up about this until the deal is gone. As I see it, the league is on borrowed time as long as this board is in charge and the sooner their incompetence can be nipped in the bud, the better.