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Posted November 14, 2012 07:43 · last edited November 15, 2012 05:11

N-Bomb wrote:

hepatitis wrote:

asmodeus_82 wrote:

hepatitis wrote:

 He is not a rubbish footballer, just wasnt cutting it at this level.

Good luck to him

Same thing? I mean sure there have been some talented footballers who have looked crap until they have "adjusted" but that is not the case here.
So what is the difference between consistently "not cutting it" and just being rubbish?


Quite a bit I suggest. So you are good at the level below this (Aust League) but cant make it here. That doesnt make you "rubbish." Says more about the writer in my view, and kicking a man when he is down

This. Clearly he isn't rubbish, it's like the theory I've heard before, if Pav went to your school he'd most likely be one of the best players in school history. Failing in the A-League doesn't mean that you're terrible, you've done extremely well to get to that point to begin with.
Gotta disagree with you there. Firstly A-league (and up) is the only level that counts, of you don't succeed there you can be adequately described as rubbish. Hell I kicked ass at 8-a-side but I don't go round claiming that I'm any good at any higher level. The only relevant context in which we can determine talent is the professional one, how well you perform in some other context (the school) is irrelevant to how good of a professional footballer you are. I don't want to kick anyone while their down but today's press release does not change my opinion of his performances for the Phoenix, moreover I don't think Pav will be reading this so will be unaffected by our comments.
I think our disagreement stems from the strong use of language. "Rubbish" is a strong word to describe his abilities as a footballer especially in a wider context.
Perhaps we can agree that he was "inadequately talented" as a professional footballer?

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asmodeus_82 edited November 15, 2012 05:11
N-Bomb wrote:
hepatitis wrote:
asmodeus_82 wrote:
hepatitis wrote:

 He is not a rubbish footballer, just wasnt cutting it at this level.

Good luck to him

Same thing? I mean sure there have been some talented footballers who have looked crap until they have "adjusted" but that is not the case here.
So what is the difference between consistently "not cutting it" and just being rubbish?


Quite a bit I suggest. So you are good at the level below this (Aust League) but cant make it here. That doesnt make you "rubbish." Says more about the writer in my view, and kicking a man when he is down

This. Clearly he isn't rubbish, it's like the theory I've heard before, if Pav went to your school he'd most likely be one of the best players in school history. Failing in the A-League doesn't mean that you're terrible, you've done extremely well to get to that point to begin with.
Gotta disagree with you there. Firstly A-league (and up) is the only level that counts, of you don't succeed there you can be adequately described as rubbish. Hell I kicked ass at 8-a-side but I don't go round claiming that I'm any good at any higher level. The only relevant context in which we can determine talent is the professional one, how well you perform in some other context (the school) is irrelevant to how good of a professional footballer you are. I don't want to kick anyone while their down but today's press release does not change my opinion of his performances for the Phoenix, moreover I don't think Pav will be reading this so will be unaffected by our comments.
I think our disagreement stems from the strong use of language. "Rubbish" is a strong word to describe his abilities as a footballer especially in a wider context. Perhaps we can agree that he was "inadequately talented" as a professional footballer?