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Posted October 16, 2020 21:50 · last edited October 17, 2020 20:36

martinb wrote:

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

Bootit wrote:

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

i think this season is the most important in the nixs history when it comes to both new signings and survivial (both financial and playing)

Focus must obviously be on survival but at the same stage using this crises to our advantage long term 

If we sign a bunch of sydney kids to one year contracts i dont think thats going to achieve anything long term

If however we sign a bunch of young kiwis and also the potential kiwi targets overseas (collier, musas etc) and adopt a siege mentality, imagine what a foundation that could lay for our club long term

If you are going to do it, this is the year to lay the foundation, even if we end up second last, it aint exactly going to impact on our home crowds 

Time to do it

Considering both Musa and Collier are seeing game time in the MLS, you are being excessively ambitious. 

I dont think so. Their minutes are virtucally 10 a game if they are lucky, Those two are basically replacing Hooper and Taylor and their wages are nit flash where they are. 

Also the Nix is potentially just as good a career pathway for ambitious players as the States these days.

Yeah but if you get a green card as a lot of these Kiwi players in the US end up doing, you effectively become a local player and maybe an attractive at least squad player for the 25 odd MLS teams.

Then if you get cut by your MLS club, you also have the 35 odd USL pro teams a level down - where admittedly the pay ain't likely to be great. 

Contrast that to the Nix who are playing in a comp, that has a lot of financial uncertainty and may not exist after this season. Plus I imagine you have as much chance being signed by a Euro club from the MLS, as you do from the A League.

Also the USA offers up a myriad of post career opportunities (football & non-football), far more than little ole NZ or even Aussie. No coincidence that the likes of Nelsen, Brown, Lochhead, Elliott, Wilkinson, Knowles, Oughton, Gleeson, Christie(?) etc have made it their home. Musa at 28 may even be weighing that up now. 

Having said that someone like Brotherton could be worth an approach, if he doesn't have MLS interest now. Could be tired of playing in the low profile USL, and keen to make himself more visible for possible AWs selection. Kyle Adams as well, if Houston cut him adrift.

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Unknown editor edited October 17, 2020 20:36
martinb wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
Bootit wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

i think this season is the most important in the nixs history when it comes to both new signings and survivial (both financial and playing)

Focus must obviously be on survival but at the same stage using this crises to our advantage long term 

If we sign a bunch of sydney kids to one year contracts i dont think thats going to achieve anything long term

If however we sign a bunch of young kiwis and also the potential kiwi targets overseas (collier, musas etc) and adopt a siege mentality, imagine what a foundation that could lay for our club long term

If you are going to do it, this is the year to lay the foundation, even if we end up second last, it aint exactly going to impact on our home crowds 

Time to do it

Considering both Musa and Collier are seeing game time in the MLS, you are being excessively ambitious. 

I dont think so. Their minutes are virtucally 10 a game if they are lucky, Those two are basically replacing Hooper and Taylor and their wages are nit flash where they are. 

Also the Nix is potentially just as good a career pathway for ambitious players as the States these days.

Yeah but if you get a green card as a lot of these Kiwi players in the US end up doing, you effectively become a local player and maybe an attractive at least squad player for the 25 odd MLS teams.

Then if you get cut by your MLS club, you also have the 35 odd USL pro teams a level down - where admittedly the pay ain't likely to be great. 

Contrast that to the Nix who are playing in a comp, that has a lot of financial uncertainty and may not exist after this season. Plus I imagine you have as much chance being signed by a Euro club from the MLS, as you do from the A League.

Also the USA offers up a myriad of post career opportunities (football & non-football), far more than little ole NZ or even Aussie. No coincidence that the likes of Nelsen, Brown, Lochhead, Elliott, Wilkinson, Knowles, Gleeson, Christie(?) etc have made it their home. Musa at 28 may even be weighing that up now. 

Having said that someone like Brotherton could be worth an approach, if he doesn't have MLS interest now. Could be tired of playing in the low profile USL, and keen to make himself more visible for possible AWs selection. Kyle Adams as well, if Houston cut him adrift.

Unknown editor edited October 16, 2020 21:53
martinb wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
Bootit wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

i think this season is the most important in the nixs history when it comes to both new signings and survivial (both financial and playing)

Focus must obviously be on survival but at the same stage using this crises to our advantage long term 

If we sign a bunch of sydney kids to one year contracts i dont think thats going to achieve anything long term

If however we sign a bunch of young kiwis and also the potential kiwi targets overseas (collier, musas etc) and adopt a siege mentality, imagine what a foundation that could lay for our club long term

If you are going to do it, this is the year to lay the foundation, even if we end up second last, it aint exactly going to impact on our home crowds 

Time to do it

Considering both Musa and Collier are seeing game time in the MLS, you are being excessively ambitious. 

I dont think so. Their minutes are virtucally 10 a game if they are lucky, Those two are basically replacing Hooper and Taylor and their wages are nit flash where they are. 

Also the Nix is potentially just as good a career pathway for ambitious players as the States these days.

Yeah but if you get a green card as a lot of these Kiwi players in the US end up doing, you effectively become a local player and maybe an attractive at least squad player for the 25 odd MLS teams.

Then if you get cut by your MLS club, you also have the 35 odd USL pro teams a level down - where admittedly the pay ain't likely to be great. 

Contrast that to the Nix who are playing in a comp, that has a lot of financial uncertainty and may not exist after this season. Plus I imagine you have as much chance being signed by a Euro club from the MLS, as you do from the A League.

Also the USA offers up a myriad of post career opportunities (football & non-football), far more than little ole NZ or even Aussie. No coincidence that the likes of Nelsen, Brown, Lochhead, Elliott, Wilkinson, Knowles, Gleeson, Christie(?) etc have made it their home. Musa at 28 may even be weighing that up now. 

Having said that someone like Brotherton could be worth an approach, if he doesn't have MLS interest now. Could be tired of playing in the low profile USL, and keen to make himself more visible for possible AWs selection. Kyle Adamas as well.

Unknown editor edited October 16, 2020 21:53
martinb wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
Bootit wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

i think this season is the most important in the nixs history when it comes to both new signings and survivial (both financial and playing)

Focus must obviously be on survival but at the same stage using this crises to our advantage long term 

If we sign a bunch of sydney kids to one year contracts i dont think thats going to achieve anything long term

If however we sign a bunch of young kiwis and also the potential kiwi targets overseas (collier, musas etc) and adopt a siege mentality, imagine what a foundation that could lay for our club long term

If you are going to do it, this is the year to lay the foundation, even if we end up second last, it aint exactly going to impact on our home crowds 

Time to do it

Considering both Musa and Collier are seeing game time in the MLS, you are being excessively ambitious. 

I dont think so. Their minutes are virtucally 10 a game if they are lucky, Those two are basically replacing Hooper and Taylor and their wages are nit flash where they are. 

Also the Nix is potentially just as good a career pathway for ambitious players as the States these days.

Yeah but if you get a green card as a lot of these Kiwi players in the US end up doing, you effectively become a local player and maybe an attractive at least squad player for the 25 odd MLS teams.

Then if you get cut by your MLS club, you also have the 35 odd USL pro teams a level down - where admittedly the pay ain't likely to be great. 

Contrast that to the Nix who are playing in a comp, that has a lot of financial uncertainty and may not exist after this season. Plus I imagine you have as much chance being signed by a Euro club from the MLS, as you do from the A League.

Also the USA offers up a myriad of post career opportunities (football & non-football), far more than little ole NZ or even Aussie. No coincidence that the likes of Nelsen, Brown, Lochhead, Elliott, Wilkinson, Knowles, Gleeson, Christie(?) etc have made it their home. Musa at 28 may even be weighing that up now. 

Having said that someone like Brotherton could be worth an approach, if he doesn't have MLS interest now. Could be tired of playing in the low profile USL, and keen to make himself more visible for possible AWs selection.

Unknown editor edited October 16, 2020 21:52
martinb wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
Bootit wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

i think this season is the most important in the nixs history when it comes to both new signings and survivial (both financial and playing)

Focus must obviously be on survival but at the same stage using this crises to our advantage long term 

If we sign a bunch of sydney kids to one year contracts i dont think thats going to achieve anything long term

If however we sign a bunch of young kiwis and also the potential kiwi targets overseas (collier, musas etc) and adopt a siege mentality, imagine what a foundation that could lay for our club long term

If you are going to do it, this is the year to lay the foundation, even if we end up second last, it aint exactly going to impact on our home crowds 

Time to do it

Considering both Musa and Collier are seeing game time in the MLS, you are being excessively ambitious. 

I dont think so. Their minutes are virtucally 10 a game if they are lucky, Those two are basically replacing Hooper and Taylor and their wages are nit flash where they are. 

Also the Nix is potentially just as good a career pathway for ambitious players as the States these days.

Yeah but if you get a green card as a lot of these Kiwi players in the US end up doing, you effectively become a local player and maybe an attractive at least squad player for the 25 odd MLS teams.

Then if you get cut by your MLS club, you also have the 35 odd USL pro teams a level down - where admittedly the pay ain't likely to be great. 

Contrast that to the Nix who are playing in a comp, that has a lot of financial uncertainty and may not exist after this season. Plus I imagine you have as much chance being signed by a Euro club from the MLS, as you do from the A League.

Also the USA offers up a myriad of post career opportunities (football & non-football), far more than little ole NZ or even Aussie. No coincidence that the likes of Nelsen, Brown, Lochhead, Elliott, Wilkinson, Knowles, Gleeson, Christie(?) etc have made it their home. Someone like Musa at 28 may even be weighing that up now. 

Having said that someone like Brotherton could be worth an approach, if he doesn't have MLS interest now. Could be tired of playing in the low profile USL, and keen to make himself more visible for possible AWs selection.