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Posted May 04, 2014 11:32 · last edited May 04, 2014 11:33

james dean wrote:
Fitzy wrote:
james dean wrote:
Blew.2 wrote:
Steve-O wrote:

Don't expect too much - Rob Morrison in the news today saying that signing big names didn't work for the HIGHLANDERS, so we don't need to either.

These are the guys running our club. FFS.

Saidknee know the real truth. 5th is as good as 9th if you don't win your knock out playoff game. 


Sorry but that is complete BS - if we'd finished 5th we'd have won a hell of a lot more games, which would have been a much more enjoyable season as a fan.  


The target of "making the playoffs" is a complete cop out - finishing 6th and in the bottom half is not a good season.  We need to aim a lot higher, we need a plan for how we're going to win the competition because in a 10 team salary capped league if you're not trying to win why are you even competing?  There is a lack of ambition on the pitch which is dragging the club down off it


This isn't about marquees either, it's about putting together a team with the AIM of winning the comp, not with the AIM of finishing 6th - the two are very different and you'll target different players.  


Think you're not adequately taking in to account timeframes here. There's nothing wrong with the goal for a season being a playoff place as part of a longer term goal to win the league. And I've never heard anyone from the nix talk about the top 6 being the long term goal. 


Do you see a plan to win the competition?  That to me means finishing top 2 over the league season.  I think we've got some things right but I also think it's pretty clear our ambition is to finish 5th/6th and reality is we're quite a long way behind the top sides over a season, even though we can compete in one off games.  


I think that shows in the complete lack of concern over finishing 9th this season by the club - if you thought you could win the league then finishing 9th is a disaster.  If all you're trying to do is sneak into the playoffs and you miss out then you're not that concerned are you, which seems to be the state of affairs right now.  I do think that's a problem for attracting fans and players - we do completely lack ambition.

I think you missed my point. I don't think anyone at the club has a long term plan to consistently finish no better than 5th or 6th, and I don't think anyone is under the illusion that the way to win the competition is by squeaking in to 6th and then having a dream run in the post season. Everyone knows full well that you don't win shit by finishing in 6th.


I see a goal of making the playoffs more as a way of measuring how we're tracking towards winning the title. Merrick and Welnix have said before that that's the goal, and I genuinely believe them. I think there's definitely room for fair criticism about how they're going about that and they certainly haven't gotten everything right so far, but I think they're on the right track and although some things might be missing, I don't think ambition is one of them.


I guess I'm just a lot less pessimistic than a lot on here seem to be. Yes the season overall was pretty rubbish, but at times this season we played some great football. If we'd have kept playing the way we played through that purple patch mid season I think we would have won the league. On top of that we've got stable and committed owners and a coach who I have a fair amount of confidence in. Also, not sure if you heard the news this week but we're playing f*cking West Ham in two months. F*cking West Ham! Whatever fair gripe you might have with the owners, I don't think they can be accused of having a lack of ambition.



Edited just for formatting. Y'all don't want to see my Sunday night rants in a single paragraph do you now.

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Fitzy edited May 04, 2014 11:33
james dean wrote:
Fitzy wrote:
james dean wrote:
Blew.2 wrote:
Steve-O wrote:

Don't expect too much - Rob Morrison in the news today saying that signing big names didn't work for the HIGHLANDERS, so we don't need to either.

These are the guys running our club. FFS.

Saidknee know the real truth. 5th is as good as 9th if you don't win your knock out playoff game. 


Sorry but that is complete BS - if we'd finished 5th we'd have won a hell of a lot more games, which would have been a much more enjoyable season as a fan.  


The target of "making the playoffs" is a complete cop out - finishing 6th and in the bottom half is not a good season.  We need to aim a lot higher, we need a plan for how we're going to win the competition because in a 10 team salary capped league if you're not trying to win why are you even competing?  There is a lack of ambition on the pitch which is dragging the club down off it


This isn't about marquees either, it's about putting together a team with the AIM of winning the comp, not with the AIM of finishing 6th - the two are very different and you'll target different players.  


Think you're not adequately taking in to account timeframes here. There's nothing wrong with the goal for a season being a playoff place as part of a longer term goal to win the league. And I've never heard anyone from the nix talk about the top 6 being the long term goal. 


Do you see a plan to win the competition?  That to me means finishing top 2 over the league season.  I think we've got some things right but I also think it's pretty clear our ambition is to finish 5th/6th and reality is we're quite a long way behind the top sides over a season, even though we can compete in one off games.  


I think that shows in the complete lack of concern over finishing 9th this season by the club - if you thought you could win the league then finishing 9th is a disaster.  If all you're trying to do is sneak into the playoffs and you miss out then you're not that concerned are you, which seems to be the state of affairs right now.  I do think that's a problem for attracting fans and players - we do completely lack ambition.

I think you missed my point. I don't think anyone at the club has a long term plan to consistently finish no better than 5th or 6th, and I don't think anyone is under the illusion that the way to win the competition is by squeaking in to 6th and then having a dream run in the post season. Everyone knows full well that you don't win shit by finishing in 6th.
I see a goal of making the playoffs more as a way of measuring how we're tracking towards winning the title. Merrick and Welnix have said before that that's the goal, and I genuinely believe them. I think there's definitely room for fair criticism about how they're going about that and they certainly haven't gotten everything right so far, but I think they're on the right track and although some things might be missing, I don't think ambition is one of them.
I guess I'm just a lot less pessimistic than a lot on here seem to be. Yes the season overall was pretty rubbish, but at times this season we played some great football. If we'd have kept playing the way we played through that purple patch mid season I think we would have won the league. On top of that we've got stable and committed owners and a coach who I have a fair amount of confidence in. Also, not sure if you heard the news this week but we're playing f*cking West Ham in two months. F*cking West Ham! Whatever fair gripe you might have with the owners, I don't think they can be accused of having a lack of ambition.