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Posted June 30, 2014 10:58 · last edited June 30, 2014 12:48

Ryan54 wrote:

I don't think we can have a team which doesn't have Brockie or Krishna as our main central striker. People are wanting Burns for that role but he hasn't really done it before. I think that Burns should slot in behind our main central striker.

Maybe I (+others?) are misinterpreting what Ernie means by a "high striker" when he talks about Burns?  And he talks about a high striker vs a stationary target man so it seems he is talking about the style of a front man?  I got the impression that he'll play two of Boyd/Brockie/Krishna/Kenny wider, with Burns roving in front?  

Just trying to fathom what Ernie is saying and how you use what you expect to be the strengths in the squad.  And remembering while we expect to have Weemac, Gorrin was also quoted as expecting the opportunity to be a key player for the Nix.  You'd therefore expect both Gorrin and Weemac starting and playing central.

If you presume you have Weemac, Gorrin and Riera as starters you end up with a 4-1-4-1, or 4-2-3-1.  It just seems with Riera holding, Kenny and one of Boyd/Krishna/Brockie wider and Gorrin and Weemac more central makes more sense. Burns up front given a pretty free ranging role.  

Ernie's said about Burns - "a high striker"

"He's exactly what we were after," Merrick said. "A high striker with pace, great dribbling, one-on-one qualities, can also play on the wing and play as a No 10. Pacy, flexible, mobile and not a stationary sort of target man. I like strikers to come from wide positions. This gives me great combinations in attack and midfield. Good depth, good quality and a lot of pace."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10195283/Mer...

and

"[about Burns] Merrick said he  had been looking for a player who could play as a midfielder, winger or high striker.

"[Socceroos star] Robbie Kruse was a good example of that type of player," Merrick said.

"When he came to Victory as a winger I turned him into a high striker who would come in from wide and score goals. 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10194000/For...

But having found that quote and read that again, he's also saying he sees Burns as capable of playing at no10.  So he should be a better back-up to (hopefully) McGlinchey, than my - just previously posted concern - that Gorrin might be the back-up in the no10 role.  

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mjp2 edited June 30, 2014 12:48
Ryan54 wrote:

I don't think we can have a team which doesn't have Brockie or Krishna as our main central striker. People are wanting Burns for that role but he hasn't really done it before. I think that Burns should slot in behind our main central striker.

Maybe I (+others?) are misinterpreting what Ernie means by a "high striker" when he talks about Burns?  And he talks about a high striker vs a stationary target man so it seems he is talking about the style of a front man?  I got the impression that he'll play two of Boyd/Brockie/Krishna/Kenny wider, with Burns roving in front?  

Just trying to fathom what Ernie is saying and how you use what you expect to be the strengths in the squad.  And remembering while we expect to have Weemac, Gorrin was also quoted as expecting the opportunity to be a key player for the Nix.  You'd therefore expect both Gorrin and Weemac starting and playing central.

If you presume you have Weemac, Gorrin and Riera as starters you end up with a 4-1-4-1, or 4-2-3-1.  Either of those formations push into a 4-1-3-2 (plus overlapping FB in the mix) or the kitchen sink 3 at the back-1-2-4 with everyone hammering it forward. It just seems the 4-1-4-1 with Riera holding, Kenny and one of Boyd/Krishna/Brockie wider and Gorrin and Weemac more central makes more sense. Burns up front given a pretty free ranging role.  

Ernie's said about Burns - "a high striker"

"He's exactly what we were after," Merrick said. "A high striker with pace, great dribbling, one-on-one qualities, can also play on the wing and play as a No 10. Pacy, flexible, mobile and not a stationary sort of target man. I like strikers to come from wide positions. This gives me great combinations in attack and midfield. Good depth, good quality and a lot of pace."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10195283/Mer...

and

"[about Burns] Merrick said he  had been looking for a player who could play as a midfielder, winger or high striker.

"[Socceroos star] Robbie Kruse was a good example of that type of player," Merrick said.

"When he came to Victory as a winger I turned him into a high striker who would come in from wide and score goals. 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10194000/For...

But having found that quote and read that again, he's also saying he sees Burns as capable of playing at no10.  So he should be a better back-up to (hopefully) McGlinchey, than my - just previously posted concern - that Gorrin might be the back-up in the no10 role.  

mjp2 edited June 30, 2014 12:12
Ryan54 wrote:

I don't think we can have a team which doesn't have Brockie or Krishna as our main central striker. People are wanting Burns for that role but he hasn't really done it before. I think that Burns should slot in behind our main central striker.

Maybe I (+others?) are misinterpreting what Ernie means by a "high striker" when he talks about Burns?  And he talks about a high striker vs a stationary target man so it seems he is talking about the style of a front man?  I got the impression that he'll play two of Boyd/Brockie/Krishna/Kenny wider, with Burns roving in front?  

Just trying to fathom what Ernie is saying and how you use what you expect to be the strengths in the squad.  And remembering we expect to have Weemac and Gorrin was also quoted as expecting the opportunity to be a key player for the Nix.  You'd therefore expect both Gorrin and Weemac starting and playing central.

If you presume you have Weemac, Gorrin and Riera as starters you end up with a 4-1-4-1, or 4-2-3-1, with either of those formations pushing into a 4-1-3-2 (plus overlapping FB in the mix) or the kitchen sink 3 at the back-1-2-4 with everyone hammering it forward. It just seems the 4-1-4-1 with Riera holding, Kenny and one of Boyd/Krishna/Brockie wider and Gorrin and Weemac more central makes more sense. Burns up front given a pretty free ranging role.  

Ernie's said about Burns - "a high striker"

"He's exactly what we were after," Merrick said. "A high striker with pace, great dribbling, one-on-one qualities, can also play on the wing and play as a No 10. Pacy, flexible, mobile and not a stationary sort of target man. I like strikers to come from wide positions. This gives me great combinations in attack and midfield. Good depth, good quality and a lot of pace."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10195283/Mer...

and

"[about Burns] Merrick said he  had been looking for a player who could play as a midfielder, winger or high striker.

"[Socceroos star] Robbie Kruse was a good example of that type of player," Merrick said.

"When he came to Victory as a winger I turned him into a high striker who would come in from wide and score goals. 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10194000/For...

But having found that quote and read that again, he's also saying he sees Burns as capable of playing at no10.  So he should be a better back-up to (hopefully) McGlinchey, than my - just previously posted concern - that Gorrin might be the back-up in the no10 role.  

mjp2 edited June 30, 2014 12:09
Ryan54 wrote:

I don't think we can have a team which doesn't have Brockie or Krishna as our main central striker. People are wanting Burns for that role but he hasn't really done it before. I think that Burns should slot in behind our main central striker.

Maybe I (+others?) are misinterpreting what Ernie means by a "high striker"?  And he talks about a high striker vs a stationary target man so it seems he is talking about the style of a front man?  I got the impression that he'll play two of Boyd/Brockie/Krishna wider, with Burns roving in front?  If you presume you have Weemac, Gorrin and Riera as starters you end up with a 4-1-4-1, 4-2-3-1, pushing into a 4-1-3-2 with the likes of Krishna/Brockie and Burns as a front two with Weemac, Kenny and Gorrin/Boyd behind them?  It just seems the 4-1-4-1 with Riera holding, Kenny and Boyd wider with Gorrin and Weemac more central makes more sense.  Burns up front given a pretty free ranging role.

Ernie's said about Burns - "a high striker"

"He's exactly what we were after," Merrick said. "A high striker with pace, great dribbling, one-on-one qualities, can also play on the wing and play as a No 10. Pacy, flexible, mobile and not a stationary sort of target man. I like strikers to come from wide positions. This gives me great combinations in attack and midfield. Good depth, good quality and a lot of pace."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10195283/Mer...

and

"[about Burns] Merrick said he  had been looking for a player who could play as a midfielder, winger or high striker.

"[Socceroos star] Robbie Kruse was a good example of that type of player," Merrick said.

"When he came to Victory as a winger I turned him into a high striker who would come in from wide and score goals. 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10194000/For...

But having found that quote and read that again, he's also saying he sees him as capable of playing at no10.  So he should be a better back-up to (hopefully) McGlinchey, than my - just previously posted concern - that Gorrin might be the back-up in the no10 role.  Sounds like he's putting together a really well balanced squad with good cover in all positions .... but then Ernie is a very positive chap

mjp2 edited June 30, 2014 11:57
Ryan54 wrote:

I don't think we can have a team which doesn't have Brockie or Krishna as our main central striker. People are wanting Burns for that role but he hasn't really done it before. I think that Burns should slot in behind our main central striker.

In Ernie we trust ....?

Ernie's said it about Burns - "a high striker"

"He's exactly what we were after," Merrick said. "A high striker with pace, great dribbling, one-on-one qualities, can also play on the wing and play as a No 10. Pacy, flexible, mobile and not a stationary sort of target man. I like strikers to come from wide positions. This gives me great combinations in attack and midfield. Good depth, good quality and a lot of pace."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10195283/Mer...

and

"[about Burns] Merrick said he  had been looking for a player who could play as a midfielder, winger or high striker.

"[Socceroos star] Robbie Kruse was a good example of that type of player," Merrick said.

"When he came to Victory as a winger I turned him into a high striker who would come in from wide and score goals. 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/10194000/For...

Which together suggests he prefers Burns to Krishna and Brockie in that role - I think it's clear Burns is his preference at high striker.  So yes he may need to convert Burns to that role to an extent but he's confident Burn's will do the job well and has all the attributes he wants for that job.  

But having found that quote and read that again, he's also saying he sees him as capable of playing at no10.  So he should be a better back-up to (hopefully) McGlinchey, than my - just previously posted concern - that Gorrin might be the back-up in the no10 role.  Sounds like he's putting together a really well balanced squad with good cover in all positions .... but then Ernie is a very positive chap