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Posted March 31, 2016 09:25 · last edited March 31, 2016 09:27

Leggy wrote:

No worries drunk monk.

Some people are under are under the misconception that it is piss easy to get into New Zealand. 

That's bullshark and has been so for a decade.

The reality is that it is harder then most countries in the world to migrate to NZ (in fact these days people will migrate to Australia as it is far easier and use it as a back door to NZ). 

The irony. 

People think it's the other way around. It's not and many people are doing it. Look at the stats of so called Ausis coming here.

NZ Is all about employability. Ausi is not.

95 per cent of people for NZ need the job offer to get residence. The vast majority of people on this forum (98 per cent) based upon their profile myself included would never be eligible for residence of this country unless they had a skilled job offer.

Can you imagine how tough that is to get a job offer in another country unless you are there? For most it means leaving their job travelling to that country for interviews, knock backs etc. Not easy and not for the faint hearted.

Unless you are a single, backpacking skilled chap. If you are skilled, middle class with a mortgage and maybe even have a kid or two  it gets tougher. Maybe impossible and too scary for most.

Our imports have it and we should be using it as the Phoenix. For our ability to make these guys local (non imports) and also for our players (they may actually like this country and want to stay here for ever!!). Once they lose their contract they are probably toast. So it's a duty of care.

With selective players NZ football may also  have an interest as well in making them citizens (but I think this may be all too complicated for them)

Not so. I know three couples that could not get into Australia, came to NZ, got citizenship and are now Aussie citizens.

And I bet you that was many many years ago? When the policies and roles were reversed. 

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AucklandPhoenix edited March 31, 2016 09:27
Leggy wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

No worries drunk monk.

Some people are under are under the misconception that it is piss easy to get into New Zealand. 

That's bullshark and has been so for a decade.

The reality is that it is harder then most countries in the world to migrate to NZ (in fact these days people will migrate to Australia as it is far easier and use it as a back door to NZ). 

The irony. 

People think it's the other way around. It's not and many people are doing it. Look at the stats of so called Ausis coming here.

NZ Is all about employability. Ausi is not.

95 per cent of people for NZ need the job offer to get residence. The vast majority of people on this forum (98 per cent) based upon their profile myself included would never be eligible for residence of this country unless they had a skilled job offer.

Can you imagine how tough that is to get a job offer in another country unless you are there? For most it means leaving their job travelling to that country for interviews, knock backs etc. Not easy and not for the faint hearted.

Unless you are a single, backpacking skilled chap. If you are skilled, middle class with a mortgage and maybe even have a kid or two  it gets tougher. Maybe impossible and too scary for most.

Our imports have it and we should be using it as the Phoenix. For our ability to make these guys local (non imports) and also for our players (they may actually like this country and want to stay here for ever!!). Once they lose their contract they are probably toast. So it's a duty of care.

With selective players NZ football may also  have an interest as well in making them citizens (but I think this may be all too complicated for them)

Not so. I know three couples that could not get into Australia, came to NZ, got citizenship and are now Aussie citizens.

And I bet you that was many many years ago? When the policies and roles were reversed

AucklandPhoenix edited March 31, 2016 09:26
Leggy wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

No worries drunk monk.

Some people are under are under the misconception that it is piss easy to get into New Zealand. 

That's bullshark and has been so for a decade.

The reality is that it is harder then most countries in the world to migrate to NZ (in fact these days people will migrate to Australia as it is far easier and use it as a back door to NZ). 

The irony. 

People think it's the other way around. It's not and many people are doing it. Look at the stats of so called Ausis coming here.

NZ Is all about employability. Ausi is not.

95 per cent of people for NZ need the job offer to get residence. The vast majority of people on this forum (98 per cent) based upon their profile myself included would never be eligible for residence of this country unless they had a skilled job offer.

Can you imagine how tough that is to get a job offer in another country unless you are there? For most it means leaving their job travelling to that country for interviews, knock backs etc. Not easy and not for the faint hearted.

Unless you are a single, backpacking skilled chap. If you are skilled, middle class with a mortgage and maybe even have a kid or two  it gets tougher. Maybe impossible and too scary for most.

Our imports have it and we should be using it as the Phoenix. For our ability to make these guys local (non imports) and also for our players (they may actually like this country and want to stay here for ever!!). Once they lose their contract they are probably toast. So it's a duty of care.

With selective players NZ football may also  have an interest as well in making them citizens (but I think this may be all too complicated for them)

Not so. I know three couples that could not get into Australia, came to NZ, got citizenship and are now Aussie citizens.

And I bet you that was many many years ago?

AucklandPhoenix edited March 31, 2016 09:26
Leggy wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

No worries drunk monk.

Some people are under are under the misconception that it is piss easy to get into New Zealand. 

That's bullshark and has been so for a decade.

The reality is that it is harder then most countries in the world to migrate to NZ (in fact these days people will migrate to Australia as it is far easier and use it as a back door to NZ). 

The irony. 

People think it's the other way around. It's not and many people are doing it. Look at the stats of so called Ausis coming here.

NZ Is all about employability. Ausi is not.

95 per cent of people for NZ need the job offer to get residence. The vast majority of people on this forum (98 per cent) based upon their profile myself included would never be eligible for residence of this country unless they had a skilled job offer.

Can you imagine how tough that is to get a job offer in another country unless you are there? For most it means leaving their job travelling to that country for interviews, knock backs etc. Not easy and not for the faint hearted.

Unless you are a single, backpacking skilled chap. If you are skilled, middle class with a mortgage and maybe even have a kid or two  it gets tougher. Maybe impossible and too scary for most.

Our imports have it and we should be using it as the Phoenix. For our ability to make these guys local (non imports) and also for our players (they may actually like this country and want to stay here for ever!!). Once they lose their contract they are probably toast. So it's a duty of care.

With selective players NZ football may also  have an interest as well in making them citizens (but I think this may be all too complicated for them)

Not so. I know three couples that could not get into Australia, came to NZ, got citizenship and are now Aussie citizens.

And I bet you that was many many years ago