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Posted February 02, 2014 05:48 · last edited February 02, 2014 06:01

ForteanTimes wrote:

Seriously I think it's a ploy to twist arms. The newish guy in charge at the Westpac has already done lots to improve the stadium experience, but it's going to take time to make these improvements.

I've never understood how Kiwi's are incapable of designing something functional but I guess they never factored in that "soccer" might take off.

In a perfect world we'd have a little stadium next to the Westpac, (15 thousand max but able to be extended), I remember going to the McAlpine and the Reebok stadiums soon after they were built and thought how good they were. 

Welnix would  need a few million to do this and whatever Morgan says, if he can't cough up for  a Marquee player or two he ain't going to build a new stadium - he's bluffing.

Better look at some sort of retro-fit. People going on about the weather and the need for a roof - but I can only remember a handful of matches where it was so cold that it was uncomfortable.

To make money they need to try and loosen the grip of Spotless - they do the stadium or the Nix no favors.

10 years from now  if we can stay in the A league and probably get out of Oceania - then we might look at a football stadium. Then you might get some investment from abroad, (probably dubious), particularly when they are making it harder for crooks and villians to stay in more established leagues. 

Look at a retrofit option as rather than starting from scratch it's the only option that makes sense. 


it shouldn't of been a problem anyway. They should of designed Westpac Stadium to be a specialized rugby crowd which is a football ground as well. The stadium was sold out for rugby games for the 1st few years. Rugby should of always been the stadiums priority in the 1st placed the All Blacks games are the biggest money maker for that place. Don't know why they thought they were going to get 36k in for cricket games on the regular. But that was a stuff up years ago. Maybe the Phoenix and WRFU should just butt heads and get it transformed. With Newtown park being a temporary venue for the year, but you would miss out on 2 sell out All Black tests In that time which is a massive money maker for that stadium. At this point they can right it off as a cricket ground, couldn't even get decent numbers against India. Basin Reserve is where everyone wants to watch cricket in Wellington, instead of being in concrete and plastic isles. I believe building at Petone Rec you could have stands on both sides and a grassy mould at one end of the ground for the standing faithful. 



Sorry to hijack the thread but this is the most exciting prospect to happen since the rising of the Phoenix and the Hutt Valley in a long time.

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Goonertron edited February 02, 2014 06:01
ForteanTimes wrote:

Seriously I think it's a ploy to twist arms. The newish guy in charge at the Westpac has already done lots to improve the stadium experience, but it's going to take time to make these improvements.

I've never understood how Kiwi's are incapable of designing something functional but I guess they never factored in that "soccer" might take off.

In a perfect world we'd have a little stadium next to the Westpac, (15 thousand max but able to be extended), I remember going to the McAlpine and the Reebok stadiums soon after they were built and thought how good they were. 

Welnix would  need a few million to do this and whatever Morgan says, if he can't cough up for  a Marquee player or two he ain't going to build a new stadium - he's bluffing.

Better look at some sort of retro-fit. People going on about the weather and the need for a roof - but I can only remember a handful of matches where it was so cold that it was uncomfortable.

To make money they need to try and loosen the grip of Spotless - they do the stadium or the Nix no favors.

10 years from now  if we can stay in the A league and probably get out of Oceania - then we might look at a football stadium. Then you might get some investment from abroad, (probably dubious), particularly when they are making it harder for crooks and villians to stay in more established leagues. 

Look at a retrofit option as rather than starting from scratch it's the only option that makes sense. 


it shouldn't of been a problem anyway. They should of designed Westpac Stadium to be a specialized rugby crowd which is a football ground as well. The stadium was sold out for rugby games for the 1st few years. Rugby should of always been the stadiums priority in the 1st placed the All Blacks games are the biggest money maker for that place. Don't know why they thought they were going to get 36k in for cricket games on the regular. But that was a stuff up years ago. Maybe the Phoenix and WRFU should just butt heads and get it transformed. With Newtown park being a temporary venue for the year, but you would miss out on 2 sell out All Black tests In that time which is a massive money maker for that stadium. At this point they can right it off as a cricket ground, couldn't even get decent numbers against India. Basin Reserve is where everyone wants to watch cricket in Wellington, instead of being in concrete and plastic isles. I believe building at Petone Rec you could have stands on both sides and a grassy mould at one end of the ground for the standing faithful. 


Sorry to hijack the thread but this is the most exciting prospect to happen since the rising of the Phoenix.
Goonertron edited February 02, 2014 06:00
ForteanTimes wrote:

Seriously I think it's a ploy to twist arms. The newish guy in charge at the Westpac has already done lots to improve the stadium experience, but it's going to take time to make these improvements.

I've never understood how Kiwi's are incapable of designing something functional but I guess they never factored in that "soccer" might take off.

In a perfect world we'd have a little stadium next to the Westpac, (15 thousand max but able to be extended), I remember going to the McAlpine and the Reebok stadiums soon after they were built and thought how good they were. 

Welnix would  need a few million to do this and whatever Morgan says, if he can't cough up for  a Marquee player or two he ain't going to build a new stadium - he's bluffing.

Better look at some sort of retro-fit. People going on about the weather and the need for a roof - but I can only remember a handful of matches where it was so cold that it was uncomfortable.

To make money they need to try and loosen the grip of Spotless - they do the stadium or the Nix no favors.

10 years from now  if we can stay in the A league and probably get out of Oceania - then we might look at a football stadium. Then you might get some investment from abroad, (probably dubious), particularly when they are making it harder for crooks and villians to stay in more established leagues. 

Look at a retrofit option as rather than starting from scratch it's the only option that makes sense. 


it shouldn't of been a problem anyway. They should of designed Westpac Stadium to be a specialized rugby crowd which is a football ground as well. The stadium was sold out for rugby games for the 1st few years. Rugby should of always been the stadiums priority in the 1st placed the All Blacks games are the biggest money maker for that place. Don't know why they thought they were going to get 36k in for cricket games on the regular. But that was a stuff up years ago. Maybe the Phoenix and WRFU should just butt heads and get it transformed. With Newtown park being a temporary venue for the year, but you would miss out on 2 sell out All Black tests In that time which is a massive money maker for that stadium. At this point they can right it off as a cricket ground, couldn't even get decent numbers against India. Basin Reserve is where everyone wants to watch cricket in Wellington, instead of being in concrete and plastic isles. I believe building at Petone Rec you could have stands on both sides and a grassy mould at one end of the ground for the standing faithful. 
Goonertron edited February 02, 2014 05:59
ForteanTimes wrote:

Seriously I think it's a ploy to twist arms. The newish guy in charge at the Westpac has already done lots to improve the stadium experience, but it's going to take time to make these improvements.

I've never understood how Kiwi's are incapable of designing something functional but I guess they never factored in that "soccer" might take off.

In a perfect world we'd have a little stadium next to the Westpac, (15 thousand max but able to be extended), I remember going to the McAlpine and the Reebok stadiums soon after they were built and thought how good they were. 

Welnix would  need a few million to do this and whatever Morgan says, if he can't cough up for  a Marquee player or two he ain't going to build a new stadium - he's bluffing.

Better look at some sort of retro-fit. People going on about the weather and the need for a roof - but I can only remember a handful of matches where it was so cold that it was uncomfortable.

To make money they need to try and loosen the grip of Spotless - they do the stadium or the Nix no favors.

10 years from now  if we can stay in the A league and probably get out of Oceania - then we might look at a football stadium. Then you might get some investment from abroad, (probably dubious), particularly when they are making it harder for crooks and villians to stay in more established leagues. 

Look at a retrofit option as rather than starting from scratch it's the only option that makes sense. 


it shouldn't of been a problem anyway. They should of designed Westpac Stadium to be a specialized rugby crowd which is a football ground as well. The stadium was sold out for rugby games for the 1st few years. Rugby should of always been the stadiums priority in the 1st placed the All Blacks games are the biggest money maker for that place. Don't know why they thought they were going to get 36k in for cricket games on the regular. But that was a stuff up years ago. Maybe the Phoenix and WRFU should just butt heads and get it transformed. With Newtown park being a temporary venue for the year, but you would miss out on 2 sell out All Black tests In that time which is a massive money maker for that stadium. At this point they can right it off as a cricket ground, couldn't even get decent numbers against IndiaBasin Reserve is where everyone wants to watch cricket in Wellington, instead of being in concrete and plastic isles.
Goonertron edited February 02, 2014 05:48
ForteanTimes wrote:

Seriously I think it's a ploy to twist arms. The newish guy in charge at the Westpac has already done lots to improve the stadium experience, but it's going to take time to make these improvements.

I've never understood how Kiwi's are incapable of designing something functional but I guess they never factored in that "soccer" might take off.

In a perfect world we'd have a little stadium next to the Westpac, (15 thousand max but able to be extended), I remember going to the McAlpine and the Reebok stadiums soon after they were built and thought how good they were. 

Welnix would  need a few million to do this and whatever Morgan says, if he can't cough up for  a Marquee player or two he ain't going to build a new stadium - he's bluffing.

Better look at some sort of retro-fit. People going on about the weather and the need for a roof - but I can only remember a handful of matches where it was so cold that it was uncomfortable.

To make money they need to try and loosen the grip of Spotless - they do the stadium or the Nix no favors.

10 years from now  if we can stay in the A league and probably get out of Oceania - then we might look at a football stadium. Then you might get some investment from abroad, (probably dubious), particularly when they are making it harder for crooks and villians to stay in more established leagues. 

Look at a retrofit option as rather than starting from scratch it's the only option that makes sense. 


it shouldn't of been a problem anyway. They should of designed Westpac Stadium to be a specialized rugby crowd which is a football ground as well. The stadium was sold out for rugby games for the 1st few years. Rugby should of always been the stadiums priority in the 1st placed the All Blacks games are the biggest money maker for that place. Don't know why they thought they were going to get 36k in for cricket games on the regular. But that was a stuff up years ago. Maybe the Phoenix and WRFU should just butt heads and get it transformed. With Newtown park being a temporary venue for the year, but you would miss out on 2 sell out All Black tests In that time which is a massive money maker for that stadium. At this point they can right it off as a cricket ground, couldn't even get decent numbers against IndiaBasin Reserve is where everyone wants to watch cricket in Wellington, instead of being in concrete and plastic isles.