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Posted April 19, 2014 05:29 · last edited April 19, 2014 05:30

Doloras wrote:

So we really need a #SackWelnix thread, don't we? Football know-nothings, PR/local politics failures, and miserly with player signings to boot.

The problem with criticising the owners is that without them there's no club - because at the moment it's hard to imagine who else might be interested in owning the club. But I do think at some point their decisions need to be called into question. This whole stadium issue is a classic case in point. It almost strikes me as a diversion from the lack of investment, not necessarily in the squad (because it's hard to know who would be available who would have cost more, and we know that we have some deadwood on inflated salaries thanks to Terry) but also in additional coaching staff and training facilities. Plus there's been a subtle change of tune from them - at first they said they wanted to do it for Wellington and that's slowly become New Zealand - are they justifying their taking games on the road by acting like it's a service to the rest of the country?


Ultimately though, I think they were naive in thinking that a football club can be a self-sustaining business and I've always said so (and I know others have too, including you I think Doloras). Now they're in charge and beginning to realise that it might not be possible to break even, and they're trying to find people to blame - stadium management and the Wellington public have both copped it already. Soon it'll be the ratepayers of the Hutt, the Petone Rugby Club, and the Hutt Council themselves too. 


It pisses me off people still talking about terry and inflated salaries. Which player on a contract for next year in fact is on a so called terry salary?

Fair enough, should have used the past tense! Because over the last couple of years when we definitely had players like that, so criticising Welnix for lack of investment in the squad based on their track record isn't really fair. And if the complaint is no marquee, IIRC we never had a marquee under Terry either. Could be wrong about that though.

Edit: should add that I also don't think it's fair to criticise squad investment for next season at this stage because obviously we haven't finished signing a full squad yet.

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ConanTroutman edited April 19, 2014 05:30
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:
Doloras wrote:

So we really need a #SackWelnix thread, don't we? Football know-nothings, PR/local politics failures, and miserly with player signings to boot.

The problem with criticising the owners is that without them there's no club - because at the moment it's hard to imagine who else might be interested in owning the club. But I do think at some point their decisions need to be called into question. This whole stadium issue is a classic case in point. It almost strikes me as a diversion from the lack of investment, not necessarily in the squad (because it's hard to know who would be available who would have cost more, and we know that we have some deadwood on inflated salaries thanks to Terry) but also in additional coaching staff and training facilities. Plus there's been a subtle change of tune from them - at first they said they wanted to do it for Wellington and that's slowly become New Zealand - are they justifying their taking games on the road by acting like it's a service to the rest of the country?


Ultimately though, I think they were naive in thinking that a football club can be a self-sustaining business and I've always said so (and I know others have too, including you I think Doloras). Now they're in charge and beginning to realise that it might not be possible to break even, and they're trying to find people to blame - stadium management and the Wellington public have both copped it already. Soon it'll be the ratepayers of the Hutt, the Petone Rugby Club, and the Hutt Council themselves too. 


It pisses me off people still talking about terry and inflated salaries. Which player on a contract for next year in fact is on a so called terry salary?

Fair enough, should have used the past tense! Because over the last couple of years when we definitely had players like that, so criticising Welnix for lack of investment in the squad based on their track record isn't really fair. And if the complaint is no marquee, IIRC we never had a marquee under Terry either. Could be wrong about that though.