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Posted December 04, 2012 04:30 · last edited December 04, 2012 04:35

Manfred wrote:

It has probably been brought up before but should there not be more emphasis put on selling tickets rather than getting 10,000 through the gate? The latter is obviously ideal but if people want to spend their hard earned money then waste it because its a bit cloudy then that is up to them.

Personally I'd like to see advertising telling/incentivising people to buy tickets BEFORE gameday. My guess is that people are more likely to harden up about the weather if they have already spent the cash/got the kids excited about the game etc etc.

Someone under that stuff article was talking ticket prices and raised the good point that the more people that turn up the better the atmosphere and the more that'll want to turn up because of it. So if you need 10,000 sales at approx $30 each, what about halving the ticket price and seeing if you get double the number through the gate? (for instance) Obviously do it next season because it wouldn't be fair on season ticket holders now, but it's definitely an idea. I read a thing on the Guardian about Borussia Dortmund: 

"The fans tell you proudly what they pay for a season ticket: only €190, around €11 (£8.95) a match, to watch Jürgen Klopp's German champions, last season's double winners, who stand top of their Champions League group." http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2012/dec/02/ermany-bundesliga-noisy-fans 

Seriously, that's the current best team in Germany and their ticket prices are comparable to ours? That's ridiculous! Even compared to a movie you can see why the Phoenix struggle with crowds especially in bad weather. Hard core fans will turn up week in week out but if you are only casually interested are you going to pay $30 to sit in the stadium on a cold windy afternoon when for $15 you could go to a warm movie (as an example). When you consider that you could go to Dortmund vs Bayern in a stadium with 75,000 screaming fans for roughly the same price (minus travel of course!) it's just a bit silly.

Then obviously there's the whole kickoff time question. Sunday evening is right before a work week and people want to relax. I know it's better for families than Friday or Saturday night but because of hangovers etc Friday and Saturday night is better  for young professional and students and such, and they are probably less likely to be put off by inclement weather than a family with young kids are.

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ConanTroutman edited December 04, 2012 04:35
Manfred wrote:

It has probably been brought up before but should there not be more emphasis put on selling tickets rather than getting 10,000 through the gate? The latter is obviously ideal but if people want to spend their hard earned money then waste it because its a bit cloudy then that is up to them.

Personally I'd like to see advertising telling/incentivising people to buy tickets BEFORE gameday. My guess is that people are more likely to harden up about the weather if they have already spent the cash/got the kids excited about the game etc etc.

Someone under that stuff article was talking ticket prices and raised the good point that the more people that turn up the better the atmosphere and the more that'll want to turn up because of it. So if you need 10,000 sales at approx $30 each, what about halving the ticket price and seeing if you double the gate takings? (for instance) Obviously do it next season because it wouldn't be fair on season ticket holders now, but it's definitely an idea. I read a thing on the Guardian about Borussia Dortmund: 

"The fans tell you proudly what they pay for a season ticket: only €190, around €11 (£8.95) a match, to watch Jürgen Klopp's German champions, last season's double winners, who stand top of their Champions League group." http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2012/dec/02/ermany-bundesliga-noisy-fans 

Seriously, that's the current best team in Germany and their ticket prices are comparable to ours? That's ridiculous! Even compared to a movie you can see why the Phoenix struggle with crowds especially in bad weather. Hard core fans will turn up week in week out but if you are only casually interested are you going to pay $30 to sit in the stadium on a cold windy afternoon when for $15 you could go to a warm movie (as an example). When you consider that you could go to Dortmund vs Bayern in a stadium with 75,000 screaming fans for roughly the same price (minus travel of course!) it's just a bit silly.

Then obviously there's the whole kickoff time question. Sunday evening is right before a work week and people want to relax. I know it's better for families than Friday or Saturday night but because of hangovers etc Friday and Saturday night is better  for young professional and students and such, and they are probably less likely to be put off by inclement weather than a family with young kids are.
ConanTroutman edited December 04, 2012 04:32
Manfred wrote:

It has probably been brought up before but should there not be more emphasis put on selling tickets rather than getting 10,000 through the gate? The latter is obviously ideal but if people want to spend their hard earned money then waste it because its a bit cloudy then that is up to them.

Personally I'd like to see advertising telling/incentivising people to buy tickets BEFORE gameday. My guess is that people are more likely to harden up about the weather if they have already spent the cash/got the kids excited about the game etc etc.

Someone under that stuff article was talking ticket prices and raised the good point that the more people that turn up the better the atmosphere and the more that'll want to turn up because of it. So if you need 10,000 sales at approx $30 each, what about halving the ticket price and seeing if you double the gate takings? (for instance) Obviously do it next season because it wouldn't be fair on season ticket holders now, but it's definitely an idea. I read a thing on the Guardian about Borussia Dortmund: 

"The fans tell you proudly what they pay for a season ticket: only €190, around €11 (£8.95) a match, to watch Jürgen Klopp's German champions, last season's double winners, who stand top of their Champions League group." http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2012/dec/02/ermany-bundesliga-noisy-fans 
Seriously, that's the current best team in Germany and their ticket prices are comparable to ours? That's ridiculous! Even compared to a movie you can see why the Phoenix struggle with crowds especially in bad weather. Hard core fans will turn up week in week out but if you are only casually interested are you going to pay $30 to sit in the stadium on a cold windy afternoon when for $15 you could go to a warm movie (as an example). When you consider that you could go to Dortmund vs Bayern in a stadium with 75,000 screaming fans for roughly the same price (minus travel of course!) it's just a bit silly
Then obviously there's the whole kickoff time question. Sunday evening is right before a work week and people want to relax. I know it's better for families than Friday or Saturday night but because of hangovers etc Friday and Saturday night is better  for young professional and students and such, and they are probably less likely to be put off by inclement weather than a family with young kids are.