Current version

Posted August 14, 2020 17:21 · last edited August 15, 2020 01:05

In this Covid world the whole playing for a NZ team in an Australian competition, must be becoming a big concern for the club's visa players. Especially the family men. 

Can they return to NZ easily post this season end? In Hooper's and Davila's case can they easily get their families to return to NZ? Then when season 2020/2021 starts do they have to return to Australia for another hub, and be away from their families all over again. Big unknowns (and could be changing continuously right up to season kickoff in December, given constant changes with Covid). For Davila esp with a new born, must be incredibly unsettling.

I think Steinmann and Hooper are just likely to say bugger that, return to UK and Germany and sign for clubs there, knowing with relative certainty their living arrangements for next 12 odd months. Add in they would almost certainly need to take salary cuts to remain at the Nix, and just hard to see either hanging around. Haven't heard any news of cuts to TV rights football deals in UK or Germany yet. Though imagine leagues there will kick off new seasons with limited crowds at best, so yeah clubs there won't be throwing money around.

Without being overly negative, you might even get Ball and Davila both try and ask for early compassionate releases on their contracts, if faced with crossing the Tasman again for another hub of unknown length. You think they would get gigs back in the UK and Mexico somewhere, and with that stable environments for their families. Is the big problem now of the Nix playing in an Aussie comp, with no certainty (and won't be for months) of playing home games in season 2020/2021. Is going to make the Nix in the short term, an unattractive destination for family men, esp visa players whose families would have little support network in NZ, if they are absent in Oz.

A single guy like Taylor (who's also now 'part' of the club) will more likely cope with these issues. And I'm sure Talay/Gill will be looking hard at what future visa players they sign in the short term. Single blokes only maybe.

The reality is all of the other A League clubs will also be facing budget cuts (less so the big 3 clubs?), with combination of halved TV rights, no paying fans and lower sponsorship dollars likely etc. With Talay in charge and retaining most of the squad they should still be competitive next season. Signing some cheaper local players like Lewis and McGarry who should go okay seems to make sense.

But yes finding a potential Hooper replacement striker, already shapes as the very key play. Who knows some Euro leagues could go back into complete suspension later this year, if 2nd waves of Covid spill over Europe in their autumn/winter. Lots of clubs paying players who are sitting idle. There might be a Euro club or two willing to do a loan deal out to June 2021, for a visa player.

With new A League season not starting until December, Nix will have some time to let Hooper and Steinmann go, try repair some financial bleeding and assess the visa player market. Bank their Cacace transfer fee. Brockie on a cheap pay for play only deal, until someone better pops up?? Of course if Hooper has fallen in love with NZ, his family are prepared to cope with all the future location anxiety and he's prepared to stay for a 50% pay cut - sign him back up. But I doubt that will happen.

As AV mentions Welnix owners will also need to assess when they restart the Academy (just prior Wenix's Handy Prem campaign??), and try launch their Aussie based W League team. Both these projects just add expenses to an already bleeding bottom line. Academy is proven success story now, and you would think has to be restarted later this year. I think most people would understand, given these Covid financially stressed times if the W League team launch was delayed another year (to late 2021). That would still mean 2 W League seasons prior to the 2023 Women's World Cup.

The owners face a big drop in income, in the short medium term with potentially zero crowds 2020-2021 a worst case (but not unrealistic given Trans Tasman travel still seems a way off) scenario. They should be applauded for throwing cash at a big money striker like they did with Hooper. Showed real intent to have a crack at winning the title. But that signing was pre Covid. The world is very different and uncertain now. Stability of the club, and things like W League and Academy should take precedence on throwing big money at visa players. A request for another $900K Govt handout will not be a good look, if you have a non Kiwi visa player on nearly that coin per season. You can spin it all you want that the handout is to cover club operational costs etc, not player salaries but your average NZ tax payer won't see it that way.

Lot for the club's owners to mull over.

Previous versions

5 versions
Unknown editor edited August 15, 2020 01:05

In this Covid world the whole playing for a NZ team in an Australian competition, must be becoming a big concern for the club's visa players. Especially the family men. 

Can they return to NZ easily post this season end? In Hooper's and Davila's case can they easily get their families to return to NZ? Then when season 2020/2021 starts do they have to return to Australia for another hub, and be away from their families all over again. Big unknowns (and could be changing continuously right up to season kickoff in December, given constant changes with Covid). For Davila esp with a new born, must be incredibly unsettling.

I think Steinmann and Hooper are just likely to say bugger that, return to UK and Germany and sign for clubs there, knowing with relative certainty their living arrangements for next 12 odd months. Add in they would almost certainly need to take salary cuts to remain at the Nix, and just hard to see either hanging around. Haven't heard any news of cuts to TV rights football deals in UK or Germany yet. Though imagine leagues there will kick off new seasons with limited crowds at best, so yeah clubs there won't be throwing money around.

Without being overly negative, you might even get Ball and Davila both try and ask for early compassionate releases on their contracts, if faced with crossing the Tasman again for another hub of unknown length. You think they would get gigs back in the UK and Mexico somewhere, and with that stable environments for their families. Is the big problem now of the Nix playing in an Aussie comp, with no certainty (and won't be for months) of playing home games in season 2020/2021. Is going to make the Nix in the short term, an unattractive destination for family men, esp visa players whose families would have little support network in NZ, if they are absent in Oz.

A single guy like Taylor (who's also now 'part' of the club) will more likely cope with these issues. And I'm sure Talay/Gill will be looking hard at what future visa players they sign in the short term. Single blokes only maybe.

The reality is all of the other A League clubs will also be facing budget cuts (less so the big 3 clubs?), with combination of halved TV rights, no paying fans and lower sponsorship dollars likely etc. With Talay in charge and retaining most of the squad they should still be competitive next season. Signing some cheaper local players like Lewis and McGarry who should go okay seems to make sense.

But yes finding a potential Hooper replacement striker, already shapes as the very key play. Who knows some Euro leagues could go back into complete suspension later this year, if 2nd waves of Covid spill over Europe in their autumn/winter. Lots of clubs paying players who are sitting idle. There might be a Euro club or two willing to do a loan deal out to June 2021, for a visa player.

With new A League season not starting until December, Nix will have some time to let Hooper and Steinmann go, try repair some financial bleeding and assess the visa player market. Bank their Cacace transfer fee. Brockie on a cheap pay for play only deal, until someone better pops up?? Of course if Hooper has fallen in love with NZ, his family are prepared to cope with all the future location anxiety and he's prepared to stay for a 50% pay cut - sign him back up. But I doubt that will happen.

As AV mentions Welnix owners will also need to assess when they restart the Academy (just prior Wenix's Handy Prem campaign??), and try launch their Aussie based W League team. Both these projects just add expenses to an already bleeding bottom line. Academy is proven success story now, and you would think has to be restarted later this year. I think most people would understand, given these Covid financially stressed times if the W League team launch was delayed another year (to late 2021). That would still mean 2 W League seasons prior to the 2023 Women's World Cup.

Owners face a big drop in income, in short medium term with potentially zero crowds 2020-2021 a worst case (but not unrealistic given Trans Tasman travel still seems a way off) scenario. They should be applauded for throwing cash at a big money striker like they did with Hooper. Showed real intent to have a crack at winning the title. But that signing was pre Covid. The world is very different and uncertain now. Stability of the club, and things like W League and Academy should take precedence on throwing big money at visa players. A request for another $900K Govt handout will not be a good look, if you have a non Kiwi visa player on nearly that coin per season. You can spin it all you want that the handout is to cover club operational costs etc, not player salaries but your average NZ tax payer won't see it that way.

Lot for the club's owners to mull over.

Unknown editor edited August 14, 2020 22:33

In this Covid world the whole playing for a NZ team in an Australian competition, must be becoming a big concern for the club's visa players. Especially the family men. 

Can they return to NZ easily post this season end? In Hooper's and Davila's case can they easily get their families to return to NZ? Then when season 2020/2021 starts do they have to return to Australia for another hub, and be away from their families all over again. Big unknowns (and could be changing continuously right up to season kickoff in December, given constant changes with Covid). For Davila esp with a new born, must be incredibly unsettling.

I think Steinmann and Hooper are just likely to say bugger that, return to UK and Germany and sign for clubs there, knowing with relative certainty their living arrangements for next 12 odd months. Add in they would almost certainly need to take salary cuts to remain at the Nix, and just hard to see either hanging around. Haven't heard any news of cuts to TV rights football deals in UK or Germany yet. Though imagine leagues there will kick off new seasons with limited crowds at best, so yeah clubs there won't be throwing money around.

Without being overly negative, you might even get Ball and Davila both try and ask for early compassionate releases on their contracts, if faced with crossing the Tasman again for another hub of unknown length. You think they would get gigs back in the UK and Mexico somewhere, and with that stable environments for their families. Is the big problem now of the Nix playing in an Aussie comp, with no certainty (and won't be for months) of playing home games in season 2020/2021. Is going to make the Nix in the short term, an unattractive destination for family men, esp visa players whose families would have little support network in NZ, if they are absent in Oz.

A single guy like Taylor (who's also now 'part' of the club) will more likely cope with these issues. And I'm sure Talay/Gill will be looking hard at what future visa players they sign in the short term. Single blokes only maybe.

The reality is all of the other A League clubs will also be facing budget cuts (less so the big 3 clubs?), with combination of halved TV rights, no paying fans and lower sponsorship dollars likely etc. With Talay in charge and retaining most of the squad they should still be competitive next season. Signing some cheaper local players like Lewis and McGarry who should go okay seems to make sense.

But yes finding a potential Hooper replacement striker, already shapes as the very key play. Who knows some Euro leagues could go back into complete suspension later this year, if 2nd waves of Covid spill over Europe in their autumn/winter. Lots of clubs paying players who are sitting idle. There might be a Euro club or two willing to do a loan deal out to June 2021, for a visa player.

With new A League season not starting until December, Nix will have some time to let Hooper and Steinmann go, try repair some financial bleeding and assess the visa player market. Bank their Cacace transfer fee. Brockie on a cheap pay for play only deal, until someone better pops up?? Of course if Hooper has fallen in love with NZ, his family are prepared to cope with all the future location anxiety and he's prepared to stay for a 50% pay cut - sign him back up. But I doubt that will happen.

As AV mentions Welnix owners will also need to assess when they restart the Academy (just prior Wenix's Handy Prem campaign??), and try launch their Aussie based W League team. Both these projects just add expenses to an already bleeding bottom line. Academy is proven success story now, and you would think has to be restarted later this year. I think most people would understand, given these Covid financially stressed times if the W League team launch was delayed another year (to late 2021). That would still mean 2 W League seasons prior to the 2023 Women's World Cup.

Owners face a big drop in income, in short medium term with potentially zero crowds 2020-2021 a worst case (but not unrealistic given Trans Tasman travel still seems a way off) scenario. They should be applauded for throwing cash at a big money striker like they did with Hooper. Showed real intent to have a crack at winning the title. But that signing was pre Covid. The world is very different and uncertain now. Stability of the club, and things like W League and Academy should take precedence on throwing big money at visa players. A request for another $900K Govt handout will not be a good look, if you have a non Kiwi player on nearly that coin per season. You can spin it all you want that the handout is to cover club operational costs etc, not player salaries but your average NZ tax payer won't see it that way.

Lot for the club's owners to mull over.

Unknown editor edited August 14, 2020 17:25

In this Covid world the whole playing for a NZ team in an Australian competition, must be becoming a big concern for the club's visa players. Especially the family men. 

Can they return to NZ easily post this season end? In Hooper's and Davila's case can they easily get their families to return to NZ? Then when season 2020/2021 starts do they have to return to Australia for another hub, and be away from their families all over again. Big unknowns (and could be changing continuously right up to season kickoff in December, given constant changes with Covid). For Davila esp with a new born, must be incredibly unsettling.

I think Steinmann and Hooper are just likely to say bugger that, return to UK and Germany and sign for clubs there, knowing with relative certainty their living arrangements for next 12 odd months. Add in they would almost certainly need to take salary cuts to remain at the Nix, and just hard to see either hanging around. Haven't heard any news of cuts to TV rights football deals in UK or Germany yet. Though imagine leagues there will kick off new seasons with limited crowds at best, so yeah clubs there won't be throwing money around.

Without being overly negative, you might even get Ball and Davila both try and ask for early releases on their contracts, if faced with crossing the Tasman again for another hub of unknown length. You think they would get gigs back in the UK and Mexico somewhere. Is the big problem now of the Nix playing in an Aussie comp, with no certainty (and won't be for months) of playing home games in season 2020/2021. Is going to make the Nix in the short term, an unattractive destination for family men, esp visa players whose families would have little support network in NZ, if they are absent in Oz.

A single guy like Taylor (who's also now 'part' of the club) will more likely cope with these issues. And I'm sure Talay/Gill will be looking hard at what future visa players they sign in the short term. Single blokes only maybe.

The reality is all of the other A League clubs will also be facing budget cuts (less so the big 3 clubs?), with combination of halved TV rights, no paying fans and lower sponsorship dollars likely etc. With Talay in charge and retaining most of the squad they should still be competitive next season. Signing some cheaper local players like Lewis and McGarry who should go okay seems to make sense.

But yes finding a potential Hooper replacement striker, already shapes as the very key play. Who knows some Euro leagues could go back into complete suspension later this year, if 2nd waves of Covid spill over Europe in their autumn/winter. Lots of clubs paying players who are sitting idle. There might be a Euro club or two willing to do a loan deal out to June 2021, for a visa player.

With new A League season not starting until December, Nix will have some time to let Hooper and Steinmann go, try repair some financial bleeding and assess the visa player market. Bank their Cacace transfer fee. Brockie on a cheap pay for play only deal, until someone better pops up?? Of course if Hooper has fallen in love with NZ, his family are prepared to cope with all the future location anxiety and he's prepared to stay for a 50% pay cut - sign him back up. But I doubt that will happen.

As AV mentions Welnix owners will also need to assess when they restart the Academy (just prior Wenix's Handy Prem campaign??), and try launch their Aussie based W League team. Both these projects just add expenses to an already bleeding bottom line. Academy is proven success story now, and you would think has to be restarted later this year. I think most people would understand, given these Covid financially stressed times if the W League team launch was delayed another year (to late 2021). That would still mean 2 W League seasons prior to the 2023 Women's World Cup.

Owners face a big drop in income, in short medium term with potentially zero crowds 2020-2021 a worst case (but not unrealistic given Trans Tasman travel still seems a way off) scenario. They should be applauded for throwing cash at a big money striker like they did with Hooper. Showed real intent to have a crack at winning the title. But that signing was pre Covid. The world is very different and uncertain now. Stability of the club, and things like W League and Academy should take precedence on throwing big money at visa players. A request for another $900K Govt handout will not be a good look, if you have a non Kiwi player on nearly that coin per season. You can spin it all you want that the handout is to cover club operational costs etc, not player salaries but your average NZ tax payer won't see it that way.

Lot for the club's owners to mull over.

Unknown editor edited August 14, 2020 17:23

In this Covid world the whole playing for a NZ team in an Australian competition, must be becoming a big concern for the club's visa players. Especially the family men. 

Can they return to NZ easily post this season end? In Hooper's and Davila's case can they easily get their families to return to NZ? Then when season 2020/2021 starts do they have to return to Australia for another hub, and be away from their families all over again. Big unknowns (and could be changing continuously right up to season kickoff in December, given constant changes with Covid). For Davila esp with a new born, must be incredibly unsettling.

I think Steinmann and Hooper are just likely to say bugger that, return to UK and Germany and sign for clubs there, knowing with relative certainty their living arrangements for next 12 odd months. Add in they would almost certainly need to take salary cuts to remain at the Nix, and just hard to see either hanging around. Haven't heard any news of cuts to TV rights football deals in UK or Germany yet. Though imagine leagues there will kick off new seasons with limited crowds at best, so yeah clubs there won't be throwing money around.

Without being overly negative, you might even get Ball and Davila both try and ask for early releases on their contracts, if faced with crossing the Tasman again for another hub of unknown length. You think they would get gigs back in the UK and Mexico somewhere. Is the big problem now of the Nix playing in an Aussie comp, with no certainty (and won't be for months) of playing home games in season 2020/2021. Is going to make the Nix in the short term, an unattractive destination for family men, esp visa players whose families would have little support network in NZ, if they are absent in Oz.

A single guy like Taylor (who's also now 'part' of the club) will more likely cope with these issues. And I'm sure Talay/Gill will be looking hard at what future visa players they sign in the short term. Single blokes only maybe.

The reality is all of the other A League clubs will also be facing budget cuts (less so the big 3 clubs?), with combination of halved TV rights, no paying fans and lower sponsorship dollars likely etc. With Talay in charge and retaining most of the squad they should still be competitive next season. Signing some cheaper local players like Lewis and McGarry who should go okay seems to make sense.

But yes finding a potential Hooper replacement striker, already shapes as the very key play. Who knows some Euro leagues could go back into complete suspension later this year, if 2nd waves of Covid spill over Europe in their autumn/winter. Lots of clubs paying players who are sitting idle. There might be a Euro club or two willing to do a loan deal out to June 2021, for a visa player.

With new A League season not starting until December, Nix will have some time to let Hooper and Steinmann go, try repair some financial bleeding and assess the visa player market. Bank their Cacace transfer fee. Brockie on a cheap pay for play only deal, until someone better pops up?? Of course if Hooper has fallen in love with NZ, his family are prepared to cope with all the future location anxiety and he's prepared to stay for a 50% pay cut - sign him back up. But I doubt that will happen.

As AV mentions Welnix owners will also need to assess when they restart the Academy (just prior Wenix's Handy Prem campaign??), and try launch their Aussie based W League team. Both these projects just add expenses to an already bleeding bottom line. Academy is proven success story now, and you would think has to be restarted later this year. I think most people would understand, given these Covid financially stressed times if the W League team launch was delayed another year (to late 2021). That would still mean 2 W League seasons prior to the 2023 Women's World Cup.

Owners face a big drop in income, in short medium term with potentially zero crowds 2020-2021 a worst case (but no unrealistic) scenario. They should be applauded for throwing cash at a big money striker like they did with Hooper. Showed real intent to have a crack at winning the title. But that signing was pre Covid. The world is very different and uncertain now. Stability of the club, and things like W League and Academy should take precedence on throwing big money at visa players. A request for another $900K Govt handout will not be a good look, if you have a non Kiwi player on nearly that coin per season. You can spin it all you want that the handout is to cover club operational costs etc, not player salaries but your average NZ tax payer won't see it that way.

Lot for the club's owners to mull over.

Unknown editor edited August 14, 2020 17:22

In this Covid world the whole playing for a NZ team in an Australian competition, must be becoming a big concern for the club's visa players. Especially the family men. 

Can they return to NZ easily post this season end? In Hooper's and Davila's case can they easily get their families to return to NZ? Then when season 2020/2021 starts do they have to return to Australia for another hub, and be away from their families all over again. Big unknowns (and could be changing continuously right up to season kickoff in December, given constant changes with Covid). For Davila esp with a new born, must be incredibly unsettling.

I think Steinmann and Hooper are just likely to say bugger that, return to UK and Germany and sign for clubs there, knowing with relative certainty their living arrangements for next 12 odd months. Add in they would almost certainly need to take salary cuts to remain at the Nix, and just hard to see either hanging around. Haven't heard any news of cuts to TV rights football deals in UK or Germany yet. Though imagine leagues there will kick off new seasons with limited crowds at best, so yeah clubs there won't be throwing money around.

Without being overly negative, you might even get Ball and Davila both try and ask for early releases on their contracts, if faced with crossing the Tasman again for another hub of unknown length. You think they would get gigs back in the UK and Mexico somewhere. Is the big problem now of the Nix playing in an Aussie comp, with no certainty (and won't be for months) of playing home games in season 2020/2021. Is going to make the Nix in the short term, an unattractive destination for family men, esp visa players whose families would have little support network in NZ, if they are absent in Oz.

A single guy like Taylor (who's also now 'part' of the club) will more likely cope with these issues. And I'm sure Talay/Gill will be looking hard at what future visa players they sign in the short term. Single blokes only maybe.

The reality is all of the other A League clubs will also be facing budget cuts (less so the big 3 clubs?), with combination of halved TV rights, no paying fans and lower sponsorship dollars likely etc. With Talay in charge and retaining most of the squad they should still be competitive next season. Signing some cheaper local players like Lewis and McGarry who should go okay seems to make sense.

But yes finding a potential Hooper replacement striker, already shapes as the very key play. Who knows some Euro leagues could go back into complete suspension later this year, if 2nd waves of Covid spill over Europe in their autumn/winter. Lots of clubs paying players who are sitting idle. There might be a Euro club or two willing to do a loan deal out to June 2021, for a visa player.

With new A League season not starting until December, Nix will have some time to let Hooper and Steinmann go, try repair some financial bleeding and assess the visa player market. Bank their Cacace transfer fee. Brockie on a cheap pay for play only deal, until someone better pops up?? Of course if Hooper has fallen in love with NZ, his family are prepared to cope with all the future location anxiety and he's prepared to stay for a 50% pay cut - sign him back up. But I doubt that will happen.
As AV mentions Welnix owners will also need to assess when they restart the Academy (just prior Wenix's Handy Prem campaign??), and try launch their Aussie based W League team. Both these projects just add expenses to an already bleeding bottom line. Academy is proven success story now, and you would think has to be restarted later this year. I think most people would understand, given these Covid financially stressed times if the W League team launch was delayed another year (to late 2021). That would still mean 2 W League seasons prior to the 2023 Women's World Cup.

Owners face a big drop in income, in short medium term with potentially zero crowds 2020-2021 a worst case (but no unrealistic) scenario. They should be applauded for throwing cash at a big money striker like they did with Hooper. Showed real intent to have a crack at winning the title. But that signing was pre Covid. The world is very different and uncertain now. Stability of the club, and things like W League and Academy should take precedence on throwing big money at visa players. A request for another $900K Govt handout will not be a good look, if you have a non Kiwi player on nearly that coin per season. You can spin it all you want that the handout is to cover club operational costs etc, not player salaries but your average NZ tax payer won't see it that way.

Lot for the club's owners to mull over.