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Posted January 25, 2019 07:49 · last edited January 25, 2019 07:51

DJ Jazzy Jeff Sarpong wrote:

Carphil wrote:

DJ Jazzy Jeff Sarpong wrote:

Yakcall wrote:

For those that didn't/haven't listen. I wrote up what was said to the question that originally wasn't asked.

Piney: What have you made of the Wellington Phoenix form these last couple of months

Teo: Fantastic for them, I hate to say it but I'm somewhat cynical this is the value of an asset being steadily increased before it is sold. I don't think this is necessary favouring the Nix and I know that maybe the kiwis won't like me saying that but I do think it is better that the whole Nix Out movement has been thoroughly silenced by the entertaining play and also fantastic individual performances of the Wellington Phoenix team.

Piney: So it is still your gut feel that a maybe a A-league team won't exist in Wellington beyond the back end of next season?

Teo: I just get the feeling that the process of the expansion was so fiercely contested and there’s so much bitterness and disappointment and "We'll be back" sentiment from enough of the consortium that missed out, that rather than hold another round of expansion this maybe the most valuable an A-League license for an existing franchise is ever going to get and thus your asset has reached maximum value, there is going to be no better time to sale. And that may apply for other teams, it may apply for Central Coast, so I'm not saying just the Phoenix could be candidates to potentially be sold or switch ownership but... look its just speculation, from a purely football point of view, they are great entertainment. I find them to be one of the best teams to watch, if not the best team to watch in the league right now for the pure 90 minutes on the pitch, so lets enjoy the ride while it is still going.

totally unnecessary, Teo. Had nothing to do with the question. 

Also doesn't make any sense.

"this is the value of an asset being steadily increased before it is sold". The value of the licence has nothing to do with wellington phoenix's performance. Do you really think south-west sydney would pay more for the licence because the last holder had a good season? Do they think the licence is lucky?

coupled with what someone said earlier about the license being for an NZ team in the a league, it's all bollocks. Teo is one of the new kids on the block at Fox but is already learning the bad habits of Slattery, Kosmina and co of rehearsing a prepared piece about what they want to say, with little regard for research or follow up questions it raises. It's sharkhouse journalism

In most sports I've seen, when a franchise is sold, player/manager contracts can move along with it, so a well performing team would often increase its value. The value of Rudan has certainly soared! Depends if just the licence sold or the whole franchise I guess. All very hypothetical of course. As someone said, after next season we may not have a licence to sell.

While the licence is currently earmarked for a NZ team you could say, the league could certainly decide it doesn't have to be a NZ team. It isn't much of a safeguard.

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Unknown editor edited January 25, 2019 07:51
DJ Jazzy Jeff Sarpong wrote:
Carphil wrote:
DJ Jazzy Jeff Sarpong wrote:
Yakcall wrote:

For those that didn't/haven't listen. I wrote up what was said to the question that originally wasn't asked.

Piney: What have you made of the Wellington Phoenix form these last couple of months

Teo: Fantastic for them, I hate to say it but I'm somewhat cynical this is the value of an asset being steadily increased before it is sold. I don't think this is necessary favouring the Nix and I know that maybe the kiwis won't like me saying that but I do think it is better that the whole Nix Out movement has been thoroughly silenced by the entertaining play and also fantastic individual performances of the Wellington Phoenix team.

Piney: So it is still your gut feel that a maybe a A-league team won't exist in Wellington beyond the back end of next season?

Teo: I just get the feeling that the process of the expansion was so fiercely contested and there’s so much bitterness and disappointment and "We'll be back" sentiment from enough of the consortium that missed out, that rather than hold another round of expansion this maybe the most valuable an A-League license for an existing franchise is ever going to get and thus your asset has reached maximum value, there is going to be no better time to sale. And that may apply for other teams, it may apply for Central Coast, so I'm not saying just the Phoenix could be candidates to potentially be sold or switch ownership but... look its just speculation, from a purely football point of view, they are great entertainment. I find them to be one of the best teams to watch, if not the best team to watch in the league right now for the pure 90 minutes on the pitch, so lets enjoy the ride while it is still going.

totally unnecessary, Teo. Had nothing to do with the question. 

Also doesn't make any sense.

"this is the value of an asset being steadily increased before it is sold". The value of the licence has nothing to do with wellington phoenix's performance. Do you really think south-west sydney would pay more for the licence because the last holder had a good season? Do they think the licence is lucky?

coupled with what someone said earlier about the license being for an NZ team in the a league, it's all bollocks. Teo is one of the new kids on the block at Fox but is already learning the bad habits of Slattery, Kosmina and co of rehearsing a prepared piece about what they want to say, with little regard for research or follow up questions it raises. It's sharkhouse journalism

In most sports I've seen, when a franchise is sold, player/manager contracts can move along with it, so a well performing team would often increase its value. The value of Rudan has certainly soared! Depends if just the licence sold or the whole franchise I guess. All very hypothetical of course.

While the licence is currently earmarked for a NZ team you could say, the league could certainly decide it doesn't have to be a NZ team. It isn't much of a safeguard.

Unknown editor edited January 25, 2019 07:50
DJ Jazzy Jeff Sarpong wrote:
Carphil wrote:
DJ Jazzy Jeff Sarpong wrote:
Yakcall wrote:

For those that didn't/haven't listen. I wrote up what was said to the question that originally wasn't asked.

Piney: What have you made of the Wellington Phoenix form these last couple of months

Teo: Fantastic for them, I hate to say it but I'm somewhat cynical this is the value of an asset being steadily increased before it is sold. I don't think this is necessary favouring the Nix and I know that maybe the kiwis won't like me saying that but I do think it is better that the whole Nix Out movement has been thoroughly silenced by the entertaining play and also fantastic individual performances of the Wellington Phoenix team.

Piney: So it is still your gut feel that a maybe a A-league team won't exist in Wellington beyond the back end of next season?

Teo: I just get the feeling that the process of the expansion was so fiercely contested and there’s so much bitterness and disappointment and "We'll be back" sentiment from enough of the consortium that missed out, that rather than hold another round of expansion this maybe the most valuable an A-League license for an existing franchise is ever going to get and thus your asset has reached maximum value, there is going to be no better time to sale. And that may apply for other teams, it may apply for Central Coast, so I'm not saying just the Phoenix could be candidates to potentially be sold or switch ownership but... look its just speculation, from a purely football point of view, they are great entertainment. I find them to be one of the best teams to watch, if not the best team to watch in the league right now for the pure 90 minutes on the pitch, so lets enjoy the ride while it is still going.

totally unnecessary, Teo. Had nothing to do with the question. 

Also doesn't make any sense.

"this is the value of an asset being steadily increased before it is sold". The value of the licence has nothing to do with wellington phoenix's performance. Do you really think south-west sydney would pay more for the licence because the last holder had a good season? Do they think the licence is lucky?

coupled with what someone said earlier about the license being for an NZ team in the a league, it's all bollocks. Teo is one of the new kids on the block at Fox but is already learning the bad habits of Slattery, Kosmina and co of rehearsing a prepared piece about what they want to say, with little regard for research or follow up questions it raises. It's sharkhouse journalism

In most sports I've seen, when a franchise is sold, player/manager contracts can move along with it, so a well performing team would often increase its value. The value of Rudan has certainly soared!

While the licence is currently earmarked for a NZ team you could say, the league could certainly decide it doesn't have to be a NZ team. It isn't much of a safeguard.