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Posted January 05, 2015 02:37 · last edited January 05, 2015 02:40

Royz wrote:

Royz wrote:

This is just the right kind of club and league for him at this point in his career. 

Meh another Chris James same story different names.

Totally disagree with this comment and Vader you should know better then thising that crap. Rojas was the top player in the A league, James didn't even set state leagues alight. James played in Finland which is a league far beneath the Swiss League. He was unwanted by Barnett in the English fourth tier and clubless until he ended up in the French fourth tier. I actually dont mind James, so don't want to dish him but the two players are on different planets. Whatever happens to Rojas from here he wont end up inthe state leagues or being let go by Barnett.

James was at Fulham and didn't make it for one reason or another then ended up on his walkabout euro tour for football glory.

Just looks like Rojas may end up on this same path - Probably see his name up on Apia Leichhardt team sheet next?.

I think you're on the wrong track there.

Chris James never made it into the first team at Fulham but was let go after his youth team career expired and a handful of reserve team games.

Marco was signed by a Bundesliga club from the first team at another professional club Melbourne Victory where he was simultaneously A-League Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year.

Quite a different thing.

Chris James is more akin to another Kiwi, Sean Fallon, who was in the youth team at Liverpool with Robbie Fowler etc. but was let go after two years in the youth team and one in the reserves (injuries and a drinking problem hindered his career I believe) and ended up playing in NZ, Singapore, Aussie state leagues. 

(Actually, Chris James has had a much better senior professional career than Sean Fallon who never made the All Whites either.)

Unless injuries continue to hamper Rojas' career, I think he'll do okay in Europe. He's got a good professional attitude and no drinking problem!

Who would people say was more talented at the same age, Ryan Thomas or Marco Rojas? I'd say Rojas. Thomas went straight from the ASB Premiership to the Dutch Eredivisie.

If a similarly talented attacking player, Ryan Thomas can make it in the Eredivisie, then Marco can make it in Switzerland.

Will be interesting to compare Rojas' progress with that of Socceroo midfielder Dario Vidosic, aged 27 who went from the A-League (Brisbane Roar) to Nurnberg in the 1.Bundesliga but was farmed out on loan a lot and ended up returning for two seasons in the A-League with Brisbane before signing for Sion in Switzerland last season (29 appearances, 6 goals last season).

Oliver Bozanic, a midfielder aged 25 is the only other Aussie playing in the Swiss Super League, so that will be another interesting point of comparison. He went to Reading in England as a teenager, didn't make it and was loaned out to minor clubs like Woking and Aldershot. He returned to the A-League at Central Coast for three seasons before signing for Luzern in Switzerland last season (28 games, 5 goals last season)

Socceroo Matthew Leckie to me seems less talented skill-wise than Rojas, and also didn't make it in the 1.Bundesliga but the last couple of years has been making a good career in the 2.Bundesliga.

Sean Fallon, Liverpool FC

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Big Pete 65 edited January 05, 2015 02:40
Royz wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
Royz wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

This is just the right kind of club and league for him at this point in his career. 

Meh another Chris James same story different names.

Totally disagree with this comment and Vader you should know better then thising that crap. Rojas was the top player in the A league, James didn't even set state leagues alight. James played in Finland which is a league far beneath the Swiss League. He was unwanted by Barnett in the English fourth tier and clubless until he ended up in the French fourth tier. I actually dont mind James, so don't want to dish him but the two players are on different planets. Whatever happens to Rojas from here he wont end up inthe state leagues or being let go by Barnett.

James was at Fulham and didn't make it for one reason or another then ended up on his walkabout euro tour for football glory.

Just looks like Rojas may end up on this same path - Probably see his name up on Apia Leichhardt team sheet next?.

I think you're on the wrong track there.

Chris James never made it into the first team at Fulham but was let go after his youth team career expired and a handful of reserve team games.

Marco was signed by a Bundesliga club from the first team at another professional club Melbourne Victory where he was simultaneously A-League Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year.

Quite a different thing.

Chris James is more akin to another Kiwi, Sean Fallon, who was in the youth team at Liverpool with Robbie Fowler etc. but was let go after two years in the youth team and one in the reserves (injuries and a drinking problem hindered his career I believe) and ended up playing in NZ, Singapore, Aussie state leagues. 

(Actually, Chris James has had a much better senior professional career than Sean Fallon who never made the All Whites either.)

Unless injuries continue to hamper Rojas' career, I think he'll do okay in Europe. He's got a good professional attitude and no drinking problem!

Who would people say was more talented at the same age, Ryan Thomas or Marco Rojas? I'd say Rojas. Thomas went straight from the ASB Premiership to the Dutch Eredivisie.

If a similarly talented attacking player, Ryan Thomas can make it in the Eredivisie, then Marco can make it in Switzerland.

Will be interesting to compare Rojas' progress with that of Socceroo midfielder Dario Vidosic, aged 27 who went from the A-League (Brisbane Roar) to Nurnberg in the 1.Bundesliga but was farmed out on loan a lot and ended up returning for two seasons in the A-League with Brisbane before signing for Sion in Switzerland last season (29 appearances, 6 goals last season).

Oliver Bozanic, a midfielder aged 25 is the only other Aussie playing in the Swiss Super League, so that will be another interesting point of comparison. He went to Reading in England as a teenager, didn't make it and was loaned out to minor clubs like Woking and Aldershot. He returned to the A-League at Central coast for three seasons before signing for Luzern in Switzerland last season (28 games, 5 goals last season)

Socceroo Matthew Leckie to me seems less talented skill-wise than Rojas, and also didn't make it in the 1.Bundesliga but the last couple of years has been making a good career in the 2.Bundesliga.

Sean Fallon. Photo / NZ Herald

Sean Fallon, Liverpool FC

Big Pete 65 edited January 05, 2015 02:38
Royz wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
Royz wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

This is just the right kind of club and league for him at this point in his career. 

Meh another Chris James same story different names.

Totally disagree with this comment and Vader you should know better then thising that crap. Rojas was the top player in the A league, James didn't even set state leagues alight. James played in Finland which is a league far beneath the Swiss League. He was unwanted by Barnett in the English fourth tier and clubless until he ended up in the French fourth tier. I actually dont mind James, so don't want to dish him but the two players are on different planets. Whatever happens to Rojas from here he wont end up inthe state leagues or being let go by Barnett.

James was at Fulham and didn't make it for one reason or another then ended up on his walkabout euro tour for football glory.

Just looks like Rojas may end up on this same path - Probably see his name up on Apia Leichhardt team sheet next?.

I think you're on the wrong track there.

Chris James never made it into the first team at Fulham but was let go after his youth team career expired and a handful of reserve team games.

Marco was signed by a Bundesliga club from the first team at another professional club Melbourne Victory where he was simultaneously A-League Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year.

Quite a different thing.

Chris James is more akin to another Kiwi, Sean Fallon, who was in the youth team at Liverpool with Robbie Fowler etc. but was let go on after two years in the youth team and one in the reserves (injuries and a drinking problem hindered his career I believe) and ended up playing in NZ, Singapore, Aussie state leagues. 

(Actually, Chris James has had a much better senior professional career than Sean Fallon who never made the All Whites either.)

Unless injuries continue to hamper Rojas' career, I think he'll do okay in Europe. He's got a good professional attitude and no drinking problem!

Who would people say was more talented at the same age, Ryan Thomas or Marco Rojas? I'd say Rojas. Thomas went straight from the ASB Premiership to the Dutch Eredivisie.

If a similarly talented attacking player, Ryan Thomas can make it in the Eredivisie, then Marco can make it in Switzerland.

Will be interesting to compare Rojas' progress with that of Socceroo midfielder Dario Vidosic, aged 27 who went from the A-League (Brisbane Roar) to Nurnberg in the 1.Bundesliga but was farmed out on loan a lot and ended up returning for two seasons in the A-League with Brisbane before signing for Sion in Switzerland last season (29 appearances, 6 goals last season).

Oliver Bozanic, a midfielder aged 25 is the only other Aussie playing in the Swiss Super League, so that will be another interesting point of comparison. He went to Reading in England as a teenager, didn't make it and was loaned out to minor clubs like Woking and Aldershot. He returned to the A-League at Central coast for three seasons before signing for Luzern in Switzerland last season (28 games, 5 goals last season)

Socceroo Matthew Leckie to me seems less talented skill-wise than Rojas, and also didn't make it in the 1.Bundesliga but the last couple of years has been making a good career in the 2.Bundesliga.

Sean Fallon. Photo / NZ Herald

Sean Fallon, Liverpool FC