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Posted December 03, 2017 04:57 · last edited December 03, 2017 07:32

Napier Phoenix wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

Napier Phoenix wrote:

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

if it doesn't work out for him this time think he will end up in Chine or the J league

I would think if he doesnt make it in Holland, he wont be good enough for either China or Japan.

Selling these leagues a bit short here. The Dutch league is incredible compared to any Asian league tbh, he’d definitely do a job with his current ability in China or Japan. He hasn’t even done that badly in Holland so far and he doesn’t warrant all the skepticism just yet imo, spoke with a Heerenveen fan and apparently the manager doesn’t like picking Rojas because he doesn’t have the fitness or drive for a top division yet - they’re working with him in training to fix those areas, at which time he’ll hopefully be a class winger in the Eredivisie. But, he also says the fans love when Rojas plays because he’s obviously got the skill required (in their minds). He’s got the raw talent, just gotta utilise it

Apart from the top 3 or 4, its pretty subjective of which is the better league. I'm not doubting the strength of the Dutch League but both the J League and Chinese Super League will be in the same ball park or thereabouts. So struggling or failing to make it in Holland would probably translate to a similar struggle in a lot of the top 15/ 20 leagues in the world. Here is an interesting link, but there are many others.

Marco has not set the world on fire in Germany, Switzerland and now the Netherlands. The common perception is that he struggles with the physicality. While people here thought he would do better in the Netherlands then Germany due to style the Dutch are generally a big race and I am sure he gets a good old kicking.

The J league isn't a physical legaue at all and he could thrive. I don't know much about China but I strongly suspect the same would exist there.

So I wasn't saying that these leagues are inferior but I just believe they are more suitable for Marcos style.

I do however note that one of his current team mates is a japanese international.

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Napier Phoenix wrote:
mrsmiis wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

if it doesn't work out for him this time think he will end up in Chine or the J league

I would think if he doesnt make it in Holland, he wont be good enough for either China or Japan.

Selling these leagues a bit short here. The Dutch league is incredible compared to any Asian league tbh, he’d definitely do a job with his current ability in China or Japan. He hasn’t even done that badly in Holland so far and he doesn’t warrant all the skepticism just yet imo, spoke with a Heerenveen fan and apparently the manager doesn’t like picking Rojas because he doesn’t have the fitness or drive for a top division yet - they’re working with him in training to fix those areas, at which time he’ll hopefully be a class winger in the Eredivisie. But, he also says the fans love when Rojas plays because he’s obviously got the skill required (in their minds). He’s got the raw talent, just gotta utilise it

Apart from the top 3 or 4, its pretty subjective of which is the better league. I'm not doubting the strength of the Dutch League but both the J League and Chinese Super League will be in the same ball park or thereabouts. So struggling or failing to make it in Holland would probably translate to a similar struggle in a lot of the top 15/ 20 leagues in the world. Here is an interesting link, but there are many others.

Marco has not set the world on fire in Germany, Switzerland and now the Netherlands. The common perception is that he struggles with the physicality. While people here thought he would do better in the Netherlands then Germany due to style the Dutch are generally a big race and I am sure he gets a good old kicking.

The J league isn't a physical legaue at all and he could thrive. I don't know much about China but I strongly suspect the same would exist there.

So I wasn't saying that these leagues are inferior but I just believe they are more suitable for Marcos style.

I do however note that one of his current teams mates is a japanese international.

Unknown editor edited December 03, 2017 04:58
Napier Phoenix wrote:
mrsmiis wrote:
Napier Phoenix wrote:
AucklandPhoenix wrote:

if it doesn't work out for him this time think he will end up in Chine or the J league

I would think if he doesnt make it in Holland, he wont be good enough for either China or Japan.

Selling these leagues a bit short here. The Dutch league is incredible compared to any Asian league tbh, he’d definitely do a job with his current ability in China or Japan. He hasn’t even done that badly in Holland so far and he doesn’t warrant all the skepticism just yet imo, spoke with a Heerenveen fan and apparently the manager doesn’t like picking Rojas because he doesn’t have the fitness or drive for a top division yet - they’re working with him in training to fix those areas, at which time he’ll hopefully be a class winger in the Eredivisie. But, he also says the fans love when Rojas plays because he’s obviously got the skill required (in their minds). He’s got the raw talent, just gotta utilise it

Apart from the top 3 or 4, its pretty subjective of which is the better league. I'm not doubting the strength of the Dutch League but both the J League and Chinese Super League will be in the same ball park or thereabouts. So struggling or failing to make it in Holland would probably translate to a similar struggle in a lot of the top 15/ 20 leagues in the world. Here is an interesting link, but there are many others.

Marco has not set the world on fire in Germany, Switzerland and now the Netherlands. The common perception is that he struggles with the physicality. While people here thought he would do better in the Netherlands then Germany due to style the Dutch are generally a big race and I am sure he gets a good old kicking.

The J league isn't a physical legaue at all and he could thrive. I don't know much about China but I strongly suspect the same would exist there.

So I wasn't saying that these leagues are inferior but I just believe they are more suitable for Marcos style.

Can't also imagine him coming back to the a legaue quickly. 

I do however note that one of his current teams mates is a japense international.