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Posted November 24, 2025 00:34 · last edited November 24, 2025 00:42

coochiee
Footballtragic
Elemenop
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Last season I still supported him and never wanted him to go. But now I am now looking at his tactics, in particular the high defensive line and now thinking that this season will be like the last one.
The big question if he goes, who the hell will want the position??
Coming to this late.
It's his tactics and recruitment.. 

He surprised the first season with an amazing keeper and some epic youth (Surman and Old). 

These youth did came through the Academy and only got contracts when they were 20....in their last year of the u20 cycle. They were then on sold at 21 or 22. For whatever reason Chief and Gill then thought it was a good idea to award contracts to 17 and 18 year olds, in some cases to players that had not even played CL football. We can all see that almost all were and are still are not remotely ready for A League football. Can anyone honestly say that any of the younger youth have actually developed over the last 2 years? Chief and Gill equally culpable for this decision making and both should go!

You love this narrative don't you.

Someone (Nelfoos?) previously took the time to go through the current list of Weenix grads in the senior squad, basically debunking what you say. But here you are again reposting same.

Unconscious or conscious bias? Surely it's conscious.

Oh and to me Greenie is the obvious half season replacement to step in if Chiefy is sacked. He's done it before joint with Des. Is more experienced now, and I think has the Pro Licence (or whatever is required) to be an ALM head coach. 
After the Wrexham game many wanted him made head coach immediately!

You'd just give him half a season and see what happens. 

If the results are poor over the next 4 weeks, Chiefy really needs to go.
Are the Nix the only club (ex Auckland) in the ALM to never fire a coach?
The critics who say the club has no ambition, would have a real point if Chiefy was kept on even if the football was dire. 
But I think this time, Welnix and Dome won't be so patient.


So am I wrong? Who of the younger youth in your opinion are A League ready and have developed...with the possible exception of LBS but even he has not kicked on as much as he should have imo? By all means point me to Nelfoos debunking what I have said previously. I recall us disagreeing (which is after all part of what this Forum is for) but you interpreting it as debunking what I said is perhaps your bias? At no stage did I mention any issue with the players (Conch, Sheridan, LKH) you have mentioned. The fact that Chief waited until the 88m to bring on any of the younger youth pretty much reinforces this view. Agree re Greeny btw

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coochiee
Footballtragic
Elemenop
Taupoboy
Last season I still supported him and never wanted him to go. But now I am now looking at his tactics, in particular the high defensive line and now thinking that this season will be like the last one.
The big question if he goes, who the hell will want the position??
Coming to this late.
It's his tactics and recruitment.. 

He surprised the first season with an amazing keeper and some epic youth (Surman and Old). 

These youth did came through the Academy and only got contracts when they were 20....in their last year of the u20 cycle. They were then on sold at 21 or 22. For whatever reason Chief and Gill then thought it was a good idea to award contracts to 17 and 18 year olds, in some cases to players that had not even played CL football. We can all see that almost all were and are still are not remotely ready for A League football. Can anyone honestly say that any of the younger youth have actually developed over the last 2 years? Chief and Gill equally culpable for this decision making and both should go!

You love this narrative don't you.

Someone (Nelfoos?) previously took the time to go through the current list of Weenix grads in the senior squad, basically debunking what you say. But here you are again reposting same.

Unconscious or conscious bias? Surely it's conscious.

Oh and to me Greenie is the obvious half season replacement to step in if Chiefy is sacked. He's done it before joint with Des. Is more experienced now, and I think has the Pro Licence (or whatever is required) to be an ALM head coach. 
After the Wrexham game many wanted him made head coach immediately!

You'd just give him half a season and see what happens. 

If the results are poor over the next 4 weeks, Chiefy really needs to go.
Are the Nix the only club (ex Auckland) in the ALM to never fire a coach?
The critics who say the club has no ambition, would have a real point if Chiefy was kept on even if the football was dire. 
But I think this time, Welnix and Dome won't be so patient.


So am I wrong? Who of the younger youth in your opinion are A League ready and have developed...with the possible exception of LBS but even he has not kicked on as much as he should have imo? By all means point me to Nelfoos debunking what I have said previously. I recall us disagreeing (which is after all part of what this Forum is for) but you interpreting it as debunking what I said is perhaps your bias? At no stage did I mention any issue with the players you have mentioned. The fact that Chief waited until the 88m pretty much reinforces this view. Agree re Greeny btw
Unknown editor edited November 24, 2025 00:38
coochiee
Footballtragic
Elemenop
Taupoboy
Last season I still supported him and never wanted him to go. But now I am now looking at his tactics, in particular the high defensive line and now thinking that this season will be like the last one.
The big question if he goes, who the hell will want the position??
Coming to this late.
It's his tactics and recruitment.. 

He surprised the first season with an amazing keeper and some epic youth (Surman and Old). 

These youth did came through the Academy and only got contracts when they were 20....in their last year of the u20 cycle. They were then on sold at 21 or 22. For whatever reason Chief and Gill then thought it was a good idea to award contracts to 17 and 18 year olds, in some cases to players that had not even played CL football. We can all see that almost all were and are still are not remotely ready for A League football. Can anyone honestly say that any of the younger youth have actually developed over the last 2 years? Chief and Gill equally culpable for this decision making and both should go!

You love this narrative don't you.

Someone (Nelfoos?) previously took the time to go through the current list of Weenix grads in the senior squad, basically debunking what you say. But here you are again reposting same.

Unconscious or conscious bias? Surely it's conscious.

Oh and to me Greenie is the obvious half season replacement to step in if Chiefy is sacked. He's done it before joint with Des. Is more experienced now, and I think has the Pro Licence (or whatever is required) to be an ALM head coach. 
After the Wrexham game many wanted him made head coach immediately!

You'd just give him half a season and see what happens. 

If the results are poor over the next 4 weeks, Chiefy really needs to go.
Are the Nix the only club (ex Auckland) in the ALM to never fire a coach?
The critics who say the club has no ambition, would have a real point if Chiefy was kept on even if the football was dire. 
But I think this time, Welnix and Dome won't be so patient.


So am I wrong? Who of the younger youth in your opinion are A League ready and have developed...with the possible exception of LBS but even he has not kicked on as much as he should have imo? By all means point me to Nelfoos debunking what I have said previously. I recall us disagreeing (which is after all part of what this Forum is for) but you interpreting it as debunking what I said is perhaps your bias? Agree re Greeny btw