Post history

History for ConanTroutman

Nix Transfer Speculation 2019-20

Back to topic

Current version

Posted August 12, 2019 02:44 · last edited August 12, 2019 02:46

Bullion wrote:

ConanTroutman wrote:

maynardf wrote:

Ryan wrote:

If you look at his injury history though he's always rebounded and had very productive seasons after a prolonged injury before the next one sets in. You just want to catch him on that rebound.

He's been rehabbing for a year, I'd say he's worth a punt if the going is tough on sourcing a striker which is both healthy and productive.

if hrs on a performance based contract I think it could work out quite well for both parties

It's not just the financial cost though, it's the visa spot he takes up. If he struggles to get match fit and makes no impact he might not cost us much money but we would be missing out on an import who could make an impact.

I also don't think these sort of guys pan out often enough (ageing high profile stars I mean). Look across the A League and how many have been geniune success stories vs how many have struggled to make a significant impact. 

It might be controversial but I'd rather take a punt on Semmy. He's got more to play for, doesn't need to adjust to the culture and everything, has years ahead of him, could be a local player one day, and would be way cheaper. Players from that level stepping up actually have a better record with us I think. Krishna of course but also the likes of Sigmund and Muscat who came from the tier below the A League. I don't even think Totori was as bad as people think, he wasn't given a chance to settle in and Ricki wasn't the right manager at that point in his career to get the most out of an attacker with flair who liked to run at defenders

Club has had a look at Semmy and at this stage have said no. Rossi is a class player, wonder if we could offer a min + pay as you play option.

Yeah I know he's trialled and we haven't signed him, I'm just saying that would be my preference. Like I said even if you pay Rossi strictly on a performance basis it's not risk free because if he doesn't perform you're still down a useful import. He's also been a year without a club so would be a big gamble on that point alone. Like I said too, I just don't think these sort of signings pay off consistently enough. It's a bit of a paradox but players with more modest backgrounds have tended to be the best imports coming into the A League. Broich, Fornaroli, Ifill, Berisha... Not terrible backgrounds necessarily but hardly at the level of a guy who's played 20+ times for Italy and so on

Previous versions

1 version
Unknown editor edited August 12, 2019 02:46
Bullion wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:
maynardf wrote:
Ryan wrote:

If you look at his injury history though he's always rebounded and had very productive seasons after a prolonged injury before the next one sets in. You just want to catch him on that rebound.

He's been rehabbing for a year, I'd say he's worth a punt if the going is tough on sourcing a striker which is both healthy and productive.

if hrs on a performance based contract I think it could work out quite well for both parties

It's not just the financial cost though, it's the visa spot he takes up. If he struggles to get match fit and makes no impact he might not cost us much money but we would be missing out on an import who could make an impact.

I also don't think these sort of guys pan out often enough (ageing high profile stars I mean). Look across the A League and how many have been geniune success stories vs how many have struggled to make a significant impact. 

It might be controversial but I'd rather take a punt on Semmy. He's got more to play for, doesn't need to adjust to the culture and everything, has years ahead of him, could be a local player one day, and would be way cheaper. Players from that level stepping up actually have a better record with us I think. Krishna of course but also the likes of Sigmund and Muscat who came from the tier below the A League. I don't even think Totori was as bad as people think, he wasn't given a chance to settle in and Ricki wasn't the right manager at that point in his career to get the most out of an attacker with flair who liked to run at defenders

Club has had a look at Semmy and at this stage have said no. Rossi is a class player, wonder if we could offer a min + pay as you play option.
Yeah I know he's trialled and we haven't signed him, I'm just saying that would be my preference. Like I said even if you pay Rossi strictly on a performance basis it's not risk free because if he doesn't perform you're still down a useful import. He's also been a year without a club so would be a big gamble on that point alone. Like I said too, I just don't think these sort of signings pay off consistently enough. It's a bit of a paradox but players with more modest backgrounds have tended to be the best imports coming into the A League. Broich, Fornaroli, Ifill, Berisha...