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Posted September 23, 2019 13:07 · last edited September 23, 2019 13:12

Royz wrote:

ConanTroutman wrote:

Royz wrote:

Im worried we r gonna be the next CCM, as we just play young players for the sake of the shop window, were a top 6 finish becomes redundant all for the sake of a transfer fee. 

How can you advertise a great player if you are constantly getting the Wooden spoon or next to it. 

in the 8 seasons since WelNix took over the club, we've finished last or second to last 4 times, and only made the top 6 three times, twice finishing 4th for our best result. In the same time frame CCM have finished 1st, 2nd and 3rd, won the toilet seat and only finished in the bottom two 3 times. Maybe CCM should worry about becoming the new Phoenix. Yes they have had a shark run for the last 5 seasons but we have only finished one place above them in three of those seasons. 

Clearly whatever we have been doing hasn't been a success so the kneejerk hate of a change in strategy is a bit funny. Worried about becoming CCM? Yeah, it sure would suck to be a team wearing yellow playing in front of dwindling crowds and spending most seasons just hoping we don't come last.

Sure there are risks with this kind of approach the article is suggesting but there are risks with every strategy. We don't have the money to adopt a City group approach of throwing cash around and even if we did it's harder to attract players to Wellington than to Melbourne or Sydney. Where we do have an advantage though is a captive pool of potential youth prospects that would be foreign players for all of the other clubs. Even in their immediate catchment area CCM are still competing with the Jets and the two Sydney clubs for young players. 

So finishing last again is fine so long as we get a transfer fee for Ben Waine? such a sjw thing.

LOL what? 

Happy to be called an SJW if it means I'm not racist /sexist/homophobic/whatever, but I am a bit confused about how that's got anything to do with arguing about the policy of developing youth. Did I say that all these kids we are going to develop have to attend mandatory drag queen story hour at the local library before football practice every day?

I am also a bit confused about what you are advocating here - that we keep doing what we're doing and finish last anyway? Developing youth and attractive, successful football aren't mutually exclusive. Look at Ajax in the Champions League last year - half their first team squad under the age of 24 and they reached the semi finals playing great football. 

On another note, are you doing alright? Everything okay in your life outside the forum? Because I'm pretty sure you didn't used to be such a pissy dick about everything. You seem like you're going through some sort of crisis.

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Royz wrote:
ConanTroutman wrote:
Royz wrote:

Im worried we r gonna be the next CCM, as we just play young players for the sake of the shop window, were a top 6 finish becomes redundant all for the sake of a transfer fee. 

How can you advertise a great player if you are constantly getting the Wooden spoon or next to it. 

in the 8 seasons since WelNix took over the club, we've finished last or second to last 4 times, and only made the top 6 three times, twice finishing 4th for our best result. In the same time frame CCM have finished 1st, 2nd and 3rd, won the toilet seat and only finished in the bottom two 3 times. Maybe CCM should worry about becoming the new Phoenix. Yes they have had a shark run for the last 5 seasons but we have only finished one place above them in three of those seasons. 

Clearly whatever we have been doing hasn't been a success so the kneejerk hate of a change in strategy is a bit funny. Worried about becoming CCM? Yeah, it sure would suck to be a team wearing yellow playing in front of dwindling crowds and spending most seasons just hoping we don't come last.

Sure there are risks with this kind of approach the article is suggesting but there are risks with every strategy. We don't have the money to adopt a City group approach of throwing cash around and even if we did it's harder to attract players to Wellington than to Melbourne or Sydney. Where we do have an advantage though is a captive pool of potential youth prospects that would be foreign players for all of the other clubs. Even in their immediate catchment area CCM are still competing with the Jets and the two Sydney clubs for young players. 

So finishing last again is fine so long as we get a transfer fee for Ben Waine? such a sjw thing.
LOL what? 

Happy to be called an SJW if it means I'm not racist /sexist/homophobic/whatever, but I am a bit confused about how that's got anything to do with arguing about the policy of developing youth. Did I say that all these kids we are going to develop have to attend mandatory drag Queen story hour at the local library before football practice every day?

I am also a bit confused about what you are advocating here - that we keep doing what we're doing and finish last anyway? Developing youth and attractive, successful football aren't mutually exclusive. Look at Ajax in the Champions League last year - half their first team squad under the age of 24 and they reached the semi finals playing great football.

On another note, are you doing alright? Everything okay in your life outside the forum? Because I'm pretty sure you didn't used to be such a pissy dick about everything. You seem like you're going through some sort of crisis.