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Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA (Part 1)

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Posted July 05, 2011 10:43 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:33

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James Dean wrote:
well I think we need to take this VERY seriously. And I hope that by raising some of these issues someone, somewhere who is in a position to actually help the club survive make take notice and start doing something...it worries me that everyone thinks that it is all fine. Clearly it is not! I think that we as supporters who know the club best and know the issues are in the best position to try and solve things - pretending there isn't an issue is the worst kind of support in my book.

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Sorry JD, I respect your right to have an opinion but you're talking crap here.

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First of all, everyone does not think "that it is all fine". We all understand the problems but some of us simply don't equate that with needing to get rid of Terry. To state that those of us who prefer to remain calm and not get depressed about the situation are "pretending there isn't an issue" and guilty of "the worst kind of support" is a bit high and mighty. I am well aware that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes (he had to sell them), but that doesn't mean he's dead yet.

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Second,�there is no direct relationship between WGA, Terry's other business interests and the Nix. You've been flogging the WGA loan to death but the Nix is a stand-alone business with its own revenues and costs. The WGA�situation is only relevant to the Nix if a) the Nix makes a loss and b) Terry can't come up with the shortfall. Of course Terry's financial situation is a concern but the viability of the Nix is not directly dependent on a loan (or sponsorship) from WGA. Personally I believe Terry is quite happy for the media (and others) to be distracted by the WGA story while he sets about the real work of restructuring his businesses.

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Third, given that he does have some financial issues I think it is very sensible that Terry has�held back on�recruitment so far. There is still three months to go until the start of the season which is�plenty of time to put a squad together especially when 14 core players are already signed. Again, it's not ideal but under the circumstances I don't think it's a huge problem either. Plus, when the club starts selling season tickets (rumoured to be next week) there will be an immediate cash injection of around $1m (well, over a couple of months anyway).

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And finally, you're wrong; the supporters do not know the club best, Terry does. If the Phoenix was 100 years old and Terry was some fly-by-night foreign owner then I might agree with you. But this is Terry's club and he knows it inside out. Sure the fans are an important part of the picture (and certainly shouldn't be taken for granted) but the idea that the fans, or some other as-yet-to-be-identified mystery saviour, are better placed than Terry to "solve things" is wishful thinking.


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terminator_x wrote:
Back on topic...

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James Dean wrote:
well I think we need to take this VERY seriously. And I hope that by raising some of these issues someone, somewhere who is in a position to actually help the club survive make take notice and start doing something...it worries me that everyone thinks that it is all fine. Clearly it is not! I think that we as supporters who know the club best and know the issues are in the best position to try and solve things - pretending there isn't an issue is the worst kind of support in my book.

�

Sorry JD, I respect your right to have an opinion but you're talking crap here.

�

First of all, everyone does not think "that it is all fine". We all understand the problems but some of us simply don't equate that with needing to get rid of Terry. To state that those of us who prefer to remain calm and not get depressed about the situation are "pretending there isn't an issue" and guilty of "the worst kind of support" is a bit high and mighty. I am well aware that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes (he had to sell them), but that doesn't mean he's dead yet.

�

Second,�there is no direct relationship between WGA, Terry's other business interests and the Nix. You've been flogging the WGA loan to death but the Nix is a stand-alone business with its own revenues and costs. The WGA�situation is only relevant to the Nix if a) the Nix makes a loss and b) Terry can't come up with the shortfall. Of course Terry's financial situation is a concern but the viability of the Nix is not directly dependent on a loan (or sponsorship) from WGA. Personally I believe Terry is quite happy for the media (and others) to be distracted by the WGA story while he sets about the real work of restructuring his businesses.

�

Third, given that he does have some financial issues I think it is very sensible that Terry has�held back on�recruitment so far. There is still three months to go until the start of the season which is�plenty of time to put a squad together especially when 14 core players are already signed. Again, it's not ideal but under the circumstances I don't think it's a huge problem either. Plus, when the club starts selling season tickets (rumoured to be next week) there will be an immediate cash injection of around $1m (well, over a couple of months anyway).

�

And finally, you're wrong; the supporters do not know the club best, Terry does. If the Phoenix was 100 years old and Terry was some fly-by-night foreign owner then I might agree with you. But this is Terry's club and he knows it inside out. Sure the fans are an important part of the picture (and certainly shouldn't be taken for granted) but the idea that the fans, or some other as-yet-to-be-identified mystery saviour, are better placed than Terry to "solve things" is wishful thinking.


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