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Posted July 04, 2011 21:35 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:33

Doloras wrote:
So what exactly do you guys get out of the negativity, whinging and doom-mongering? I'm serious. You actually enjoy yourselves? Because for me, football fandom is not Serious Business. I come here for fun. [/quote]
James Dean wrote:
well I think we need to take this VERY seriously. And I hope that by raising some of these issues someone, somewhere who is in a position to actually help the club survive make take notice and start doing something...it worries me that everyone thinks that it is all fine. Clearly it is not! I think that we as supporters who know the club best and know the issues are in the best position to try and solve things - pretending there isn't an issue is the worst kind of support in my book. [/quote]

[quote=Smuthy]
Bit harsh.
 
The truth is we can't effect any change.  We just have to ride the wave and cross our fingers.  Unless someone on this forum is, or has close ties to, someone with loads of cash. 
 
So I see Doloras's point.  We might as well keep our chins up, because running round screaming about the sky falling isn't going to make one jot of difference.
 
Either Terry is going to float or sink, and if he sinks either someone is going to save us or they aren't.  Just like in England, fans are just along for the ride, so we might as well enjoy ourselves.

[quote=JD]
Well you won't be surprised to know that I disagree with that.

I think it's fatalistic to say that we can't do anything. E.g. if we as fans came out and announced in the media saying thanks Terry but we don't have faith in you anymore what would that say to him, and anyone who might be interested but is sitting on the sidelines deciding whether to get involved with a bid? And if there isn't anyone then it lets Terry know that our patience isn't infinite (I can't be the only one sick to death of the current instability and inaction?).

I think if we put out a press release like that it would make us look more than a little bit big for our own boots.  Don't get me wrong, too big for my boots is usually exactly how I roll, but in this case even I'd be cringing.
 
Fact is that we don't have any kind of stick to wield.  We aren't going to boycott the team if Terry stays, there is absolutely no appetite for that.  I think people are actually pretty fond of Terry, and want to see him survive.
 
So while you're probably right that the fans' patience isn't infinite, it's got a while left to run I reckon, the platform that we're standing on isn't really on fire yet.
 
I'd say generally we are nervous, but not angry.
 
 
 

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Doloras wrote:
So what exactly do you guys get out of the negativity, whinging and doom-mongering? I'm serious. You actually enjoy yourselves? Because for me, football fandom is not Serious Business. I come here for fun. [/quote]
James Dean wrote:
well I think we need to take this VERY seriously. And I hope that by raising some of these issues someone, somewhere who is in a position to actually help the club survive make take notice and start doing something...it worries me that everyone thinks that it is all fine. Clearly it is not! I think that we as supporters who know the club best and know the issues are in the best position to try and solve things - pretending there isn't an issue is the worst kind of support in my book. [/quote]

[quote=Smuthy]
Bit harsh.
 
The truth is we can't effect any change.  We just have to ride the wave and cross our fingers.  Unless someone on this forum is, or has close ties to, someone with loads of cash. 
 
So I see Doloras's point.  We might as well keep our chins up, because running round screaming about the sky falling isn't going to make one jot of difference.
 
Either Terry is going to float or sink, and if he sinks either someone is going to save us or they aren't.  Just like in England, fans are just along for the ride, so we might as well enjoy ourselves.

[quote=JD]
Well you won't be surprised to know that I disagree with that.

I think it's fatalistic to say that we can't do anything. E.g. if we as fans came out and announced in the media saying thanks Terry but we don't have faith in you anymore what would that say to him, and anyone who might be interested but is sitting on the sidelines deciding whether to get involved with a bid? And if there isn't anyone then it lets Terry know that our patience isn't infinite (I can't be the only one sick to death of the current instability and inaction?).

I think if we put out a press release like that it would make us look more than a little bit big for our own boots.  Don't get me wrong, too big for my boots is usually exactly how I roll, but in this case even I'd be cringing.
 
Fact is that we don't have any kind of stick to wield.  We aren't going to boycott the team if Terry stays, there is absolutely no appetite for that.  I think people are actually pretty fond of Terry, and want to see him survive.
 
So while you're probably right that the fans' patience isn't infinite, it's got a while left to run I reckon, the platform that we're standing on isn't really on fire yet.
 
I'd say generally we are nervous, but not angry.