Jonesy you always pick on me. You're such a bully.
Just as a point of order I actually hate seeing myself on tele. I'm an ugly man, and I get in trouble with my employer every time I do it. But I do it because Cakes moved to Auckland, Feverish can't speak in sentences, and Hard News can't fit a standard aspect television screen.
I understand that Frankie, JD, and Ballane are disappointed that I won't go on TV on their behalf and call for Terry to f*ck off, but I won't because WE don't think it's the right thing to say. I don't make this stuff up myself you know. News, Feverish and I keep a close eye on what is being said on here, and we talk amongst ourselves. And we are closer to it than most. From that we form a view.
If you look across the spectrum of opinion in this thread, JD, Frankie and Ballane, I think you all have to admit that you stand at one extreme: the "Terry must go" extreme. If the other extreme is "Terry is the man for the future" then I think we have trod a fair middle ground.
And, as someone has pointed out, if we're representing anyone it is only the Fever, which is not all Phoenix fans, it is a small group numbering (maybe) in the hundreds. So who cares what we think anyway.
I was voted "most likely to talk someone into harming themselves" when I was at school.
I really didn't want to seem like I was picking on you as I know how sensitive you are. You do a great job and I applaud that, but I was just responding to HN's comments that the when asked the Fever say no comment or the opinion is divided. I think that you make some pretty clear statements on what you think, and I have no problem with that being on behalf of the YF. There will always be some people who disagree with what you say, but generally you have your finger on the pulse of what the majority on here believe in.
To clear up (and I have mentioned this before) I don't think I have ever said that I want Terry out. My position has always been that for the good of the club we have to look at other alternatives, and be very open to them. It is harsh on Terry, but football is a harsh industry and there are no "jobs for life". For all the love we have for Ricki, if he starts the season playing 6 defenders, 4 midfielders and no strikers (a la Scotland vs Czech Republic), and we lose the first 10 games 4-0, we will be screaming for his head. In a similar vein, Terry is in a terrible run of form at the moment and it is impacting the team (no experienced coaches, no goal-keeping coach, etc) so I can see why some want him out. The "better the devil you know" approach is not relevant in football, otherwise no club would ever change manager.
Finally, I think that the YF organisation has two responsbilities - support the team but also to challenge the establishment to ensure that the club is moving in the right direction. I don't think that it is enough to provide chant books and organise wacky fancy-dress days, I think that YF has to be using its position to ask why Pasty's nephew is the goalkeeping coach and Greenacre is currently centre forward, centre mid, coach and marketing manager.