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Posted September 13, 2011 17:39 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:33

Doloras wrote:

Can we imagine a scenario in which Terry loses the club, goes away, builds up another empire (let's suspend disbelief on that one for the moment) and comes back in 3-5 years to get it back?[/QUOTE]
 
No
 
Doloras wrote:
[QUOTE=Hard News] Once again though Nippert has a pile of information and you have to wonder who is working so hard to feed him it.


We have a coincidence of interest:

- John Morrison and cronies want rid of Terry because they don't like his style and/or they don't like his plans for the Nix and/or they're driven nuts by continuous IMMINENT DOOM OF THE NIX PREDICTED stories.
- Terry's creditors want Terry to go under out of understandable revenge for him driving around in a Ferrari while being broke.
- Burgess and Nippert want Terry to go under because that'd be the perfect end to the story they've been writing. If Terry somehow survived they'd look stupid.

I do not consider myself paranoid or mean-spirited by suggesting that these forces have motive, means and opportunity for slanting media coverage to maximise the pressure on Terry. News, are you suggesting that there are actually people within the Nix organisation leaking this information because they also want to SACK TERRY for whatever good or bad reason?
 
I don't like to keep picking on your posts Doloras because you are not the only one commenting on this stuff from your angle, but again this just smacks of an ill conceived conspiracy theory.
 
How about a really simple explanation. 
 
Terry owed lots of people money.  People start bankruptcy proceedings to get that money back.  The media find out about it and started reporting it. 
 
John Morrison (Councillor for sport) doesn't want the local sports franchise to go bust, having it in town is a good thing for the council and the city.  Speaks to a few people in town who have a bit of cash, and is contacted by others.  Starts to put a backup plan in place
 
Terry still owes people money.  More and people try to recover that money as he is clearly in trouble and may struggle to pay everyone back.
 
Phoenix stop paying some of their bills, including players and staff.  Other staff let go and not replaced.  More evidence Terry will struggle to pay everyone back and fund the club.  People become more concerned about the future of the club, back up plan accelerated.  Media report it.
 
Terry is going bust all by himself - he doesn't need anyone's help, whether from the media or otherwise.
 
Lender's are not trying to take revenge, they just want their money back.  If they wanted him bankrupt they would have done it months ago.
 
Morrison's agenda seems to be to keep the club afloat and in Wellington.  Good on him.
 
There are a few leaks about - no surprise there.  But it hardly a pile of info, we know next to nothing about what is going on, and what we do is a very incomplete picture.
james dean2011-09-14 05:41:42

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Doloras wrote:

Can we imagine a scenario in which Terry loses the club, goes away, builds up another empire (let's suspend disbelief on that one for the moment) and comes back in 3-5 years to get it back?[/QUOTE]
 
No
 
Doloras wrote:
[QUOTE=Hard News] Once again though Nippert has a pile of information and you have to wonder who is working so hard to feed him it.


We have a coincidence of interest:

- John Morrison and cronies want rid of Terry because they don't like his style and/or they don't like his plans for the Nix and/or they're driven nuts by continuous IMMINENT DOOM OF THE NIX PREDICTED stories.
- Terry's creditors want Terry to go under out of understandable revenge for him driving around in a Ferrari while being broke.
- Burgess and Nippert want Terry to go under because that'd be the perfect end to the story they've been writing. If Terry somehow survived they'd look stupid.

I do not consider myself paranoid or mean-spirited by suggesting that these forces have motive, means and opportunity for slanting media coverage to maximise the pressure on Terry. News, are you suggesting that there are actually people within the Nix organisation leaking this information because they also want to SACK TERRY for whatever good or bad reason?
 
I don't like to keep picking on your posts Doloras because you are not the only one commenting on this stuff from your angle, but again this just smacks of an ill conceived conspiracy theory.
 
How about a really simple explanation. 
 
Terry owed lots of people money.  People start bankruptcy proceedings to get that money back.  The media find out about it and started reporting it. 
 
John Morrison (Councillor for sport) doesn't want the local sports franchise to go bust, having it in town is a good thing for the council and the city.  Speaks to a few people in town who have a bit of cash, and is contacted by others.  Starts to put a backup plan in place
 
Terry still owes people money.  More and people try to recover that money as he is clearly in trouble and may struggle to pay everyone back.
 
Phoenix stop paying some of their bills, including players and staff.  Other staff let go and not replaced.  More evidence Terry will struggle to pay everyone back and fund the club.  People become more concerned about the future of the club, back up plan accelerated.  Media report it.
 
Terry is going bust all by himself - he doesn't need anyone's help, whether from the media or otherwise.
 
Lender's are not trying to take revenge, they just want their money back.  If they wanted him bankrupt they would have done it months ago.
 
Morrison's agenda seems to be to keep the club afloat and in Wellington.  Good on him.
 
There are a few leaks about - no surprise there.  But it hardly a pile of info, we know next to nothing about what is going on, and what we do is a very incomplete picture.
james dean2011-09-14 05:41:42