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Posted December 19, 2012 20:40 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:33

terminator_x wrote:

I'm absolutely in favour of watching more attacking, entertaining football, especially if it leads to wins.

I'm not 100% convinced that it has to come from a change of style though, especially as articulated by Gareth. "Total Football" wtf?

However, Ricki Herbert has never really been under any great pressure to achieve at the Phoenix and generally he's done enough to stave off any serious criticism. He probably hasn't considered a different style because he hasn't had to. If this discussion is finally putting a bit of heat on him then great.

Overall, I'm with Ross Aloisi. Our biggest problem this season is actually that we have a few senior players completely out of form. If Ifill, Muscat, Huysegems, Lochhead and even Lia and Smith were playing anywhere near their potential this whole playing style debate never would have even come up. And as the Adelaide game showed Sanchez being injured probably hasn't helped either.

So much this. How long have we been saying that Ifill is well off the pace? We reverted to a '3 man midfield' cause the 2 that were there were not cutting it. How many people have been calling for Lochheads/Pastons head? Yes is the same as most years but you do get a real sense that some players are not performing. I dislike the style of Sigmund intensely but he was way better performed last year to this one. In fact the only one who has actually stepped up is probably Bertos and he had to make the adjustment as his career as a winger was effectively over. To be honest, I am really disappointed that Ricki has not given Ifill the boot in the ass to get in better shape. He is 32, his career is on the downslope so needs to work harder and being a notoriously lazy trainer... Thats what I find disappointing (and I do not want to call it a lack of professionalism because that's not for me to say) the attitude of it all. Greenie busted his ass at 34, why can't others?

Players that are not in form are coach killers. Problem is, are the bench players strong enough to step up? We've seen what Fenton and Boyd can do and what Totori can't. Boxall, Downey and Lindsay can't get near this team and Sanchez has been injured. When you take thos players out, that does not leave a lot of options and thats the problem of running the bare minimum squad size.

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terminator_x wrote:

I'm absolutely in favour of watching more attacking, entertaining football, especially if it leads to wins.

I'm not 100% convinced that it has to come from a change of style though, especially as articulated by Gareth. "Total Football" wtf?

However, Ricki Herbert has never really been under any great pressure to achieve at the Phoenix and generally he's done enough to stave off any serious criticism. He probably hasn't considered a different style because he hasn't had to. If this discussion is finally putting a bit of heat on him then great.

Overall, I'm with Ross Aloisi. Our biggest problem this season is actually that we have a few senior players completely out of form. If Ifill, Muscat, Huysegems, Lochhead and even Lia and Smith were playing anywhere near their potential this whole playing style debate never would have even come up. And as the Adelaide game showed Sanchez being injured probably hasn't helped either.

So much this. How long have we been saying that Ifill is well off the pace? We reverted to a '3 man midfield' cause the 2 that were there were not cutting it. How many people have been calling for Lochheads/Pastons head? Yes is the same as most years but you do get a real sense that some players are not performing. I dislike the style of Sigmund intensely but he was way better performed last year to this one. In fact the only one who has actually stepped up is probably Bertos and he had to make the adjustment as his career as a winger was effectively over. To be honest, I am really disappointed that Ricki has not given Ifill the boot in the ass to get in better shape. He is 32, his career is on the downslope so needs to work harder and being a notoriously lazy trainer... Thats what I find disappointing (and I do not want to call it a lack of professionalism because that's not for me to say) the attitude of it all. Greenie busted his ass at 34, why can't others?

Players that are not in form are coach killers. Problem is, are the bench players strong enough to step up? We've seen what Fenton and Boyd can do and what Totori can't. Boxall, Downey and Lindsay can't get near this team and Sanchez has been injured. When you take thos players out, that does not leave a lot of options and thats the problem of running the bare minimum squad size.