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Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA (Part 1)

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Posted December 19, 2012 11:01 · last edited March 18, 2021 07:33

terminator_x wrote:

I love the way you have been trying to goad him into saying "sack Ricki" but he keeps sidestepping it!

I actually don't buy the line that Ricki just can't do it either. He should be able to - he's an experienced, well-qualified coach - it's just never been his preference to play that way.


No I wasn't trying to do that at all.  I honestly think 95% of fans want a change in style.  The key thing is how you implement a change which is what I'm more interested in.

RH has coached the team in a certain style for 6 seasons.  Either he doesn't believe we have the players to play a more expansive game plan (and remember he recruited them) or he's not capable of coaching in a more possession based, expansive system (or he doesn't believe a more expansive style is a successful way to play football).  If you look at him with Nix and AWs he's never set up a team with an effective midfield able to retain possession (except when we had Felipe and Daniel in season 1 and all they did was pass to each other). 

If he's only changing style because he's being told to, and going against his own coaching instincts, is that really a good thing??

And if RH is on board with this suggested change in style (i.e. he thinks it will be more successful than what we're doing right now) doesn't it beg the question why he hasn't sent the team out to do this previously?  What has he been doing for the first 10 or 11 games this season? 

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terminator_x wrote:

I love the way you have been trying to goad him into saying "sack Ricki" but he keeps sidestepping it!

I actually don't buy the line that Ricki just can't do it either. He should be able to - he's an experienced, well-qualified coach - it's just never been his preference to play that way.


No I wasn't trying to do that at all.  I honestly think 95% of fans want a change in style.  The key thing is how you implement a change which is what I'm more interested in.

RH has coached the team in a certain style for 6 seasons.  Either he doesn't believe we have the players to play a more expansive game plan (and remember he recruited them) or he's not capable of coaching in a more possession based, expansive system (or he doesn't believe a more expansive style is a successful way to play football).  If you look at him with Nix and AWs he's never set up a team with an effective midfield able to retain possession (except when we had Felipe and Daniel in season 1 and all they did was pass to each other). 

If he's only changing style because he's being told to, and going against his own coaching instincts, is that really a good thing??

And if RH is on board with this suggested change in style (i.e. he thinks it will be more successful than what we're doing right now) doesn't it beg the question why he hasn't sent the team out to do this previously?  What has he been doing for the first 10 or 11 games this season? 
james dean edited December 19, 2012 11:02
terminator_x wrote:

I love the way you have been trying to goad him into saying "sack Ricki" but he keeps sidestepping it!

I actually don't buy the line that Ricki just can't do it either. He should be able to - he's an experienced, well-qualified coach - it's just never been his preference to play that way.


No I wasn't trying to do that at all.  I honestly think 95% of fans want a change in style.  The key thing is how you implement a change which is what I'm more interested in.
RH has coached the team in a certain style for 6 seasons.  Either he doesn't believe we have the players to play a more expansive game plan (and remember he recruited them) or he's not capable of coaching in a more possession based, expansive system (or he doesn't believe a more expansive style is a successful way to play football).  If you look at him with Nix and AWs he's never set up a team with an effective midfield able to retain possession (except when we had Felipe and Daniel in season 1 and all they did was pass to each other). 
If he's only changing style because he's being told to, and going against his own coaching instincts, is that really a good thing??
And if RH is on board with this suggested change in style (i.e. he thinks it will be more successful than what we're doing right now) doesn't it beg the question why he hasn't sent the team out to do this previously?  What has he been doing for the first 10 or 11 games this season?