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Posted January 21, 2013 01:43 · last edited January 21, 2013 01:43

Jeff Vader wrote:

Midfielder wrote:

Jeff

Not all teams have Marquee's ...  all teams do not have big budgets ... if it was money the Mariners would have died a long time ago ...

The message from Gareth is very simple ... play a style of football that will get folk tho the gate... from the outside it seems like shooting the messenger...

The squad and playing style are the coaches ... and being as fair as I can the Nix arguably play the most negative football in the A-League... the TV rating in Australia are by far the lowest of the away teams and this has not always been the case... 

While Gareth is well out his depth in selecting players and formations he is spot on in saying the Nix need to lift their game and play a better style of football... I have often posted that in NZ the football media has rarely discussed the technical side of the game [maybe to many rugby folk who knows why] in Australia that's all we read about for maybe Hal 2 to Hal 6... and in Hal 7 & 8 it still is constantly talked of ... I guess I am saying it is possible to say something is bad without it being an attack on football .... me thinks maybe so many years of negative press has created rejection of any criticism maybe I am wrong...

Jeff it's not just money and your post above essentially is about spending money whereas I would content you need to create a football culture first.... NZ football needs to invest in technical developments of coaches in general... the turn around is much faster than you may think look at the difference Arnold made to the Mariners and AP did to the Roar & MV ... Gareth IMO is by and large on the right path I think he needs support from football folk to put what he is saying in football terms .....

You raise some valid points that have given me pause to think. I too have wondered abouyt Ange and Arnold as you mentioned. I think with those 2, they have had a youth team to bring players in which is what they have done.

 

I agree, for the most part, with the points raised but those are mid to long term strategies. Our problem is that we need to find a short term fix, or the Club won't be sustainable.

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Jag edited January 21, 2013 01:43
Jeff Vader wrote:
Midfielder wrote:

Jeff

Not all teams have Marquee's ...  all teams do not have big budgets ... if it was money the Mariners would have died a long time ago ...

The message from Gareth is very simple ... play a style of football that will get folk tho the gate... from the outside it seems like shooting the messenger...

The squad and playing style are the coaches ... and being as fair as I can the Nix arguably play the most negative football in the A-League... the TV rating in Australia are by far the lowest of the away teams and this has not always been the case... 

While Gareth is well out his depth in selecting players and formations he is spot on in saying the Nix need to lift their game and play a better style of football... I have often posted that in NZ the football media has rarely discussed the technical side of the game [maybe to many rugby folk who knows why] in Australia that's all we read about for maybe Hal 2 to Hal 6... and in Hal 7 & 8 it still is constantly talked of ... I guess I am saying it is possible to say something is bad without it being an attack on football .... me thinks maybe so many years of negative press has created rejection of any criticism maybe I am wrong...

Jeff it's not just money and your post above essentially is about spending money whereas I would content you need to create a football culture first.... NZ football needs to invest in technical developments of coaches in general... the turn around is much faster than you may think look at the difference Arnold made to the Mariners and AP did to the Roar & MV ... Gareth IMO is by and large on the right path I think he needs support from football folk to put what he is saying in football terms .....

You raise some valid points that have given me pause to think. I too have wondered abouyt Ange and Arnold as you mentioned. I think with those 2, they have had a youth team to bring players in which is what they have done.

I agree, for the most part, with the points raised but those are mid to long terms strateguies. Our problem is that we need to find a short term fix, or the Club won't be sustainable.