Hard to believe such intelligent owners just don't get it (after listening to the Morrison thing) . Herbert has nothing left to offer the Phoenix. Can understand retaining him till end of season. But to retain him in some other role just because they don't want to pay him out, will be a disaster. There are lots of well connected football people on this site, and no matter where you go in football, they will tell you the same thing. That Herbert is out of his depth in the A league. That he has run out of ideas and has lost the players. Mark Elrich said on national radio that the players are unhappy. Many of those unhappy players will still be at the Phoenix next year.